I Quit My Job

September 6th, 2015 at 11:58:52 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
With all your experience, they wouldn't hire
you back at the casino?


Question is, would he want to go back.

Roof caving in on my head, the PCO place, my old boss in fact, wanted me back. Saw them by chance at a job fair. I told them "no thanks." Some relationships not worth going back to. Only way I would go back to that place would be to get fired in real style. Perhaps Face feels the same.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
September 6th, 2015 at 12:33:22 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Question is, would he want to go back.
.


Why wouldn't he, it's a known quantity.
Face has no backup, any little thing
happens and he's screwed financially.
I would say go where the jobs are, but
he has a kid to think about.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 6th, 2015 at 1:20:19 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Why wouldn't he, it's a known quantity.
Face has no backup, any little thing
happens and he's screwed financially.
I would say go where the jobs are, but
he has a kid to think about.


Because some jobs are just so, so terrible. When I left being a PCO and in management, I took about a 50% pay cut. It took me 12 years to earn what I did in my last year there, not even talking real dollars. That does not even include the car and gas I got back then. But I hated life. I was unemployed and friends told me how much better of a mood I was in! It was that awful. Why am I happy hauling luggage? Because daily I remind myself how glad I am that I am not working at that place.

Life on the edge stinks, a reason I contribute to The Side Hustle Thread. While Face has a different challenge/opportunity matrix than I do, sharing the ideas hopefully keeps us both and others out of jobs we loathe.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
September 6th, 2015 at 1:39:42 PM permalink
Evenbob
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If Face had only himself to think
about, it would be different. The
cost of having a kid goes up with
every year they go older, especially
after they start school. Then it's
money flying out the window every
week.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 6th, 2015 at 2:42:43 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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The Hippies had a leader calling out "turn on, tune in and drop out".
Now it seems to be the disillusioned who may or not be turning on first, but they sure are dropping out of the daily grind under close supervision in return for the unusual line of work where there is more freedom, flexibility and lack of close supervision. sometimes its accidental such as one woman who planted some herb because she liked it and then a broker showed up and within two years she was holding a burn the mortgage party, sometimes it is more organized and determined but always there is the desire to walk out of the cubicle and do something else.
September 6th, 2015 at 4:04:35 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Face
Let me share a little story pole.
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That works out to a yearly salary of about $15k. Fifteen thousand dollars. With my kid, that officially puts me under the poverty line.
I know you know these things, but I feel compelled to share.

The average income on the Navajo reservation is seven thousand dollars per year, over thirty percent do not have electricity or running water. I wish the rest of the country could let that sink in. Right now, right here. What do they value most? Family. A fascinating culture. A life that seeks balance with the earth and sky, and knowledge " of what truly is. No facade, no illusion, no pretense.

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My kid went camping, to the county fairs, to the races and demos, and on the lake about every week.
Now that right there, that memory, that love between you and your son, that is the reason we are here. That is treasure that cannot be calculated in dollars.
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I might have dropped 26lbs because
I like to think you let go of weight you could no longer carry.
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... I've somehow made it work.
And you will continue to. I know, we [here know] and you know, you have got this. And we all know, life ain't about things and stuff. I am reading a self help book which I am struggling with. A dr. did a survey with hundreds of end of life patients and noted what was most thought about in peoples final hours and days. Almost without fail, people thought about family, and relationships. That is what matters to all of us, when we 'get right down to it", when how we conduct ourselves,,, is no longer an act.
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I did borrow $300 from mama,
And I will guaran damn tee you, that you allowing her to help you made her feel very good. By not allowing the people that love you to help you, when you need it, is very selfish. Think if it was you, and your son could only heal if you would give him one pint of blood,,,and he wouldn't except it, because of some pride.People give, because it makes them feel better, the reason isn't because it helps us, that is a side benefit.
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the sum total of all I had to borrow to make this work.
If all that you value is money, than yeah. And who furnished your spirit, your will, your courage? I am telling you this out of love man.




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I'm not gonna pretend it's been easy.
Anything worth having, is worth working for.
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I feel like a caged animal, ready to snap at any minute.
I am suffering from Koyaanisqatsi, it sounds like you may be a little bit to? This is your struggle, your journey. This is where the versus from your lifes song will be written from, the "faces on your totem". And from what little I know you, you do have a right to be proud, you are a mighty warrior, but having a child is humbling, it sounds like you are in a period of transition.
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from Even something as simple as milk, which I need right now, just can't be done. The $12 for the milk and the $3 in gas is just beyond my abilities today. And hockey starts next week. The $180 needed might as well be an ovary as I have equal chances of obtaining either.
It seems like I can feel you, the hurt isn't about money
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And, as soon as I'm done posting here, I'm heading to CraigsList to list my boat.
Yeah, but you have a boat, it's all perspective.
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Things aren't all that great, and they haven't been for quite a while.
You have made this part of my journey easier, and I appreciate the hospitality.

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It's really highlighted what's important, and showed me with stunning clarity...
I long for, nah lust for those moments of surrealistic out of body moments of absolute understanding, the why of things. It is narcotic to me. When you realize that all time that ever existed, can be held in the palm of your hand. "Things only exist in their relationship to their opposites" [Wilbur]. You got now, which is all there ever is, it is also the most precious commodity, ever.
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Now, even if I end up only making a pitiful $25k p/yr, it's going to seem like a windfall I won't know what to do with.
One of the saddest things I've witnessed: In Homer Alaska seeing old feeble, gray haired men take a guided deep sea fishing trip [350.00 each] tell their story of how they wanted to come fish for "big butts" their whole forty year career at the factory,,,, and when they finally hook into a 70 lb. fish, they are to weak to reel it in.

Those fishing/hunting days with the ones you want to be with, cost a six figure earner, a thousand dollars per day. As my friend Ivan said, "It ain't what you make, it's what you take home".

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As petro is wont to say, "Pain is a wonderful teacher" =)
Thanks
Everyone gets thrown from the plane to maintain altitude
September 6th, 2015 at 4:26:28 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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One of the happiest women I know owns one car, one trailer, 2 or3 dogs, and a set of cameras, tripods and lenses. Plus her Australian bush hat. and her hiking shoes. She has two graduate degrees and is happy even though she makes about 20k or so a year.
September 6th, 2015 at 5:53:34 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Well, Face, I don't want to take this thread where it probably shouldn't go, so I won't say those things. But the job situation in this country is not what it should be, and even the PC people are acknowledging that men have taken the biggest hit in the current job market.

Just know that everyone here no doubt has the greatest respect for someone still willing to slug it out and take 'whatever] job if 'that is what you got to do. ' That earns respect and you got it from me.
Mustard:You like Kipling, Miss Scarlet? Sure, I'll eat anything [from movie]
September 6th, 2015 at 6:31:21 PM permalink
Face
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Quote: Evenbob
If Face had only himself to think
about, it would be different.


I think about this every day. Living in such a depressed area, it's hard not to look passed the town line. And were I a young man, or at least a non-breeder, this would be much more like an adventure rather than a test of stamina and tolerance. But I'm not a non-breeder, so this is what I have to work with. I think it's this fact that really puts on the pressure. I've had nothing before, I was fine. The thought of my kid having nothing, that's not an easy pill to swallow. So far, I've not yet done it, and don't think I ever could.

On the topic of the casino, no, I've not tried, nor do I have plans. I was never at the point of AZD's worst job, in that I'd love to go back just to go out in a blaze of awesome. But the reasons I left have only gotten worse, according to those I still talk to. And while I often mentioned "heart" or "passion" in my reasons for leaving, it was obviously more involved than that. Should things change back towards integrity and accountability like it was when I started, I'd probably be banging down their doors for reinstatement. But things haven't, so I'm not. My integrity cannot be replaced; it's one of the only things I got. And it's not for sale.

Quote: Fleastiff
The Hippies had a leader calling out "turn on, tune in and drop out".


I am aware, and this had an effect on me. You may recognize its effect from some of my more passionate rants. The lazy stoners all took it to mean "just get high and do nothing". I had a far different interpretation. Turning on is just that. Yeah, sometimes a good whack of LSD worked. But even stuff like hockey or fishing turns it on. It that thing or things that cut to the nut, so to speak. That gets down past all the bullshit to where your person really is, and resonates with it. Tune in was the exact opposite of what the lazy ones thought. It means to go find that thing that turned you on, and to search for more. It's not allowing societal pressure choose your path, it's you picking the one you want. And dropping out was just casting off all the bullshit. You have to go to school, you have to get that normal 9-5, you have to whatever. Stop doing things just because its expected. Do it because it's right.

In a way, it's a big part of why I'm here. Yeah, I "had it all". I really did. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't have killed to have been where I was. But it no longer worked for very personal reasons. Having it all means nothing if "all" isn't what you want.

Quote: odiousgambit
Well, Face, I don't want to take this thread where it probably shouldn't go, so I won't say those things. But the job situation in this country is not what it should be, and even the PC people are acknowledging that men have taken the biggest hit in the current job market.


Well, don't stop on my account. Lots of threads get derailed, often turning into interesting threads of their own. About the only reason I'd agree with you is if you were going to get political. Looking at the participants in this thread, I think you'd just be preaching to the choir ;)

Quote: OG
Just know that everyone here no doubt has the greatest respect for someone still willing to slug it out and take 'whatever] job if 'that is what you got to do. ' That earns respect and you got it from me.


Thanks. It means a lot =)

I'm not skipping petro, rather I think it requires some consideration first. I'll be back.
Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it.
September 6th, 2015 at 6:35:56 PM permalink
Evenbob
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You have a freezer, too bad you can't fish
more and fill it up. I could eat fish fried in a
little olive oil every day.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.