The Biden Presidency 2021

Quote: Mission146

Compared to Trump's, "Blame the last guy," clock, I'd say that Biden still has some time left.

Quote: RonC

I guess; if setting the bar based on President Trump is a good thing, you are right. The whole point of the election was supposedly about getting someone better.

Not exactly what we have so far. Again, he has time to do better but he has not shown much leadership so far. Kind of like a Senator without a lot of executive experience who became President.

Quote: Mission146

To be honest, I almost considered beginning the process of starting to maybe think about voting for Trump...but that would have only been because of how many people that would irritate. At the end of the day, I just couldn't bring myself to even contemplate it because of his border enforcement policies and all of the stuff that was going on down there.

No reason to bring up what's going on down there now, as I did not vote for Biden, either.

The other problem would have been four more years of listening to the Left cry about everything, and they cry in a louder and much more annoying way than the Right does. They probably would have burnt down some more businesses and stuff, also. I'd basically be trading a few instances of ten seconds of satisfaction being a total D$%^ for having to listen to them whine for four more years: not worth it.

There's also the possibility of Agent Orange being able to go, "Full Trump," when he doesn't have reelection to be concerned about. I'm not sure what, "Full Trump," might have looked like, but I definitely didn't want to find out.

And, ultimately, which group do I detest the most----the Far Left or the Evangelical Right---turns out I still detest both about equally. Also, I can't vote the way the Evangelicals are voting, man. How could I possibly do that?

Quote: Mission146

I'm going to go ahead and mostly agree with your post. The, "Rigged Election," issue is mostly ridiculous not because how little of a reason to think that the courts were biased against Trump, but mostly because it would have required a concerted effort to rig the Election to include states ran by Republicans, with Arizona being the most obvious example. Pennsylvania they can at least make the argument that the election was reasonably close and at least has a Democrat Governor. Michigan is beyond all comprehension for them to claim as the state wasn't even close. Of course, they made the same claim in states that were straight blowouts (such as Virginia) that went Biden's way. WHY would Trump have won Virginia against Biden when Clinton curb stomped him in Virginia?

I would say, "Pretty pathetic." The irony is that, the more they defecate on Joe Biden, the more amusing it becomes that Joe Biden is the one who defeated their God...pretty handily, I might add. If they want to criticize what Biden does in office, that's one thing, but criticizing Biden as a person or candidate just makes Trump that much worse by comparison.

You might not be posting nonstop about it, but it was the Left who posted nonstop about Trump for four years and change, so for the right to constantly complain about Biden is fair play. Besides, they're less incessant about it than were the Liberals complaining about Trump.

Quote: RonC

I voted for Trump. I didn't like what happened after the election and I believe Vice President Pence was correct in the way he handled the issue when it came to certifying the election. Though there may have been problems (remember, Hillary has been talking about problems with the election for years, too). I thought Trump way overplayed his poor hand and cost his party the Senate. I thought Biden was fairly moderate and never really thought about his agenda being this nutso.

The border, the economy, the handling of vaccine and coronavirus issues, inflation, the poor performance of his VP and cabinet, the poor execution of the exit from Afghanistan, etc. are all things that could have been done so much better by a competent leader. Senators really are not leaders in that position; they are part of a group. He hasn't even worked that well with either party and a portion of his party is holding up a bill that would give him a win because they insist on a progressive boondoggle that will cost way more than they estimate and they have not even figured out how to fund yet.

I accepted his election and expected more. I knew he would not be a conservative but I missed the mark because I had no idea he would be as progressive as he has been.

Quote: Gandler

I think I was pretty consistent, Trump won the election, Biden won the election. Bash them for legitimate issues or personality flaws. Don't get involved in conspiracies.

Bashing Biden for legitimate reasons is fine (I made a whole thread for his biggest failure in my eyes, which I am confident will remain his biggest failure). Bashing him for conspiracies that are demonstrably false is just insane.

I can think of some pretty major issues that outrage me about Biden, election rigging is not one (nor is it even a real issue).... I have no problem with posting nonstop issues with the current President, as long as they are real issues.

Quote: RonC

I accepted his election and expected more. I knew he would not be a conservative but I missed the mark because I had no idea he would be as progressive as he has been.

Quote: Mission146

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I agree with your position that, "Cancel Culture," is not engaged in any sort of suppression of Free Speech that would run afoul of the law. That being said, "Cancel Culture," almost seems like an end-around of the First Amendment with the goal of de facto suppressing the speech of people who the cancelers disagree with.