Ukraine conflict

December 12th, 2024 at 4:47:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
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People don't realize that we are already involved in a world war. This war is mainly transparent to most other than the obvious physical escalations between Russia and our proxies.


We used to call it the cold war. It never went away.
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December 16th, 2024 at 3:12:34 PM permalink
DRich
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I find it very interesting that Russia is not really using their air force at all in Ukraine. They will drop some glide bombs from the safety of their own territory but I don't see a single bomber flying into Ukraine to bomb. I am guessing they just realize that their planes are almost ineffective but don't want to let their customers see how poorly they perform.
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December 16th, 2024 at 3:18:06 PM permalink
GenoDRPh
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The introduction of Western ground to air defenses, plus a few Western fighter jets had something to do with it as well...
December 16th, 2024 at 4:30:29 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: GenoDRPh
The introduction of Western ground to air defenses, plus a few Western fighter jets had something to do with it as well...


I don't think the fighter jets had much to do with it but definitely the SAMs like the Patriot system and even the shoulder based Stingers were effective in the first few months of 2022.
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February 12th, 2025 at 9:28:17 AM permalink
rxwine
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Trump can give Gaza to Putin for end of Ukraine war. He pretty much thinks we own it anyway. Let's give it away.
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February 14th, 2025 at 5:42:43 AM permalink
rxwine
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"Loitering munitions" In a terrible way, kind of a neat modern term.

Just hangs around in the sky, waiting for a target to appear. I guess it could also be a land mine, that sees you, jumps up and moves towards you instead of waiting for you to step on it.
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February 15th, 2025 at 5:37:02 AM permalink
DRich
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Things are getting progressively worse for the Russian army. It is so bad now that the Uke's may be favored in a land war,

Pay attention to Russia, it may not exist in 10 years.
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February 15th, 2025 at 7:26:35 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Recently I frankly don’t pay much attention to this war. It just seems so STUPID that Ukrainians are trying to kill Russians, and Russians are trying to kill Ukrainians. I can’t imagine going about my normal day to day life as a Ukrainian. Nor can I imagine being a parent/spouse/sibling of a Russian soldier being sent into that mess.
February 15th, 2025 at 7:45:11 AM permalink
rxwine
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Wars are useful for autocrats as long as they don't push it too far. Send your prisoners to the frontlines and anyone else you have a problem with. Waste the countries wealth stockpiles, but not your own. Anything beyond that is risky.

They all suffer from ego. They'd rather sacrifice another million lives than admit weakness or failure.
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February 15th, 2025 at 8:26:40 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: SOOPOO
Recently I frankly don’t pay much attention to this war.


I don't know why, but I have a fascination with it. I still spend over an hour a day keeping up on the happenings of it.
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