Ukraine conflict

Quote: odiousgambit

what you think of what just happened is going to depend on whose spin you buy

I'll say for sure the parties were very angry with each other before they ever met. You might wonder if Zelensky showed up to make it official rather than to negotiate

My guess would be that both were trying to negotiate more.

Quote: odiousgambit

what you think of what just happened is going to depend on whose spin you buy

I'll say for sure the parties were very angry with each other before they ever met. You might wonder if Zelensky showed up to make it official rather than to negotiate

Zelensky didn't address Trump as "My Lord" for starters.

Quote: Gandler

100% he is officially the worst President in American history.

What a stupid thing to say.

Tense exchange today before Trump said he didn't want him in the White House

Warning: Men arguing. Not for pussies.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/28/us-news/trump-says-zelensky-disrespected-the-united-states-of-america-after-heated-oval-office-clash/

He's losing the war, about to lose his country, and he wants to dictate terms to the US.

Quote: Tanko

He's losing the war, about to lose his country, and he wants to dictate terms to the US.

He is thunderstruck at how Trump is stabbing Ukraine in the back, and I can't blame him.

But I knew it would happen.

Trump is a Putin stooge, his pawn, and the orange oaf has never had an open mind toward Ukraine due to the Hunter Biden scandal.

Sure, Ukraine is corrupt but so is Trump.

Quote: Tanko

https://nypost.com/2025/02/28/us-news/trump-says-zelensky-disrespected-the-united-states-of-america-after-heated-oval-office-clash/

He's losing the war, about to lose his country, and he wants to dictate terms to the US.

Only if you were a thin-skinned narcissist idiot buffoon would you be upset by anything Zelinsky said.

Quote: rxwine

Only if you were a thin-skinned narcissist idiot buffoon would you be upset by anything Zelinsky said.

So you are saying Zelenskyy is an idiot? Because Trump is ABSOLUTELY what you say. So why would he antagonize him? Knowing the fate of HIS country rests somewhat in Trump’s hands?

I hate this mineral rights extortion. Either it’s right to support Ukraine (it is!) with no strings attached or it isn’t. As opposed to the TDS addled crowd here, I see Trump as being the bully towards Ukraine, and not ‘in Putin’s pocket’ stupidity.

Quote: rxwine

It was way more interesting than advertised. But not in a good way.

Yeah it was total cluster, which is too be expected. "Did you say thank you once....." What putzes we have in charge. I actually am impressed by Zelenskyy because he stood his ground and challenged statements in front of cameras (I was afraid he was going to be too tired to keep fighting.) Zelenskyy is the kind of leader that I wish we had.

Quote: SOOPOO

So you are saying Zelenskyy is an idiot? Because Trump is ABSOLUTELY what you say. So why would he antagonize him? Knowing the fate of HIS country rests somewhat in Trump’s hands?

I hate this mineral rights extortion. Either it’s right to support Ukraine (it is!) with no strings attached or it isn’t. As opposed to the TDS addled crowd here, I see Trump as being the bully towards Ukraine, and not ‘in Putin’s pocket’ stupidity.

Zelinsky already offered to resign to please Trump.

Quote: Gandler

Yeah it was total cluster, which is too be expected. "Did you say thank you once....." What putzes we have in charge. I actually am impressed by Zelenskyy because he stood his ground and challenged statements in front of cameras (I was afraid he was going to be too tired to keep fighting.) Zelenskyy is the kind of leader that I wish we had.

99% of the Republicans turned in their spines for 99% of their interactions with Trump. So, they'd never do it.