General Election 2024

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2 votes (13.33%)
1 vote (6.66%)
2 votes (13.33%)
7 votes (46.66%)
No votes (0%)
No votes (0%)
1 vote (6.66%)
2 votes (13.33%)
3 votes (20%)
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June 29th, 2024 at 4:34:11 AM permalink
PotPie
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Quote: rxwine
By his "words' I mean mostly his numerous overblown claims.

"overblown" is not the right word

try lies - every other sentence out of his mouth is a blatant lie

well, what else would anybody expect from a 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙑𝙄𝘾𝙏

no surprise at all

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the foolish sayings of a rich man pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
June 29th, 2024 at 6:05:51 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: ams288
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a poll like that doesn't show the lead in the swing states. Biden is expected to get many more votes than Trump overall ... umm, *was* expected, so this post-debate poll puts that in doubt

Quote: Gandler
This may be the oddest take here. His wife is going to make him run again? Why would she care? But, he really did better than expected?
Jill [and that whole team] is drunk on power. Drunk enough to thumb their noses at their fellow Dems

Personally, I'm not ruling a Biden win out. But it's clear he shouldn't risk it. And he's deterioting fast, fast enough to be worse by November,. Best move? back to the basement and hide.
I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]
June 29th, 2024 at 6:39:02 AM permalink
DoubleGold
Member since: Jan 26, 2023
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Shocking, but at least they're still breathing, unlike the folks killed in Ukraine & Palestine.

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21 Facts That Joe Biden Doesn't Want You To Know

JUN 28, 2024
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20. According to one recent survey, 46 percent of Americans don’t even have 500 dollars saved up.

21. So far, the U.S. has spent a total of approximately 175 billion dollars on the war in Ukraine, and the Russians are still winning.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/21-facts-joe-biden-doesnt-want-you-know

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June 29th, 2024 at 7:13:22 AM permalink
PotPie
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at the debate the 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙑𝙄𝘾𝙏 made a claim about illegal immigrants - he said "They're taking Black jobs"

this led to a frenzy of internet jokes and memes

how effing stooooooopid does a candidate have to be to make a remark like that_____________?

pretty effing stoooooopid


https://archive.ph/JYmgL


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the foolish sayings of a rich man pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
June 29th, 2024 at 7:22:10 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: PotPie
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at the debate the 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙑𝙄𝘾𝙏 made a claim about illegal immigrants - he said "They're taking Black jobs"

this led to a frenzy of internet jokes and memes

how effing stooooooopid does a candidate have to be to make a remark like that

pretty effing stoooooopid


https://archive.ph/JYmgL


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Well, if you're voting for Trump as an answer to any Biden issues, I'd personally say, you've driven out of the ditch into the Grand Canyon. It may be the other choice, but not a solution.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
June 29th, 2024 at 7:56:35 AM permalink
odiousgambit
Member since: Oct 28, 2012
Threads: 165
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Quote: PotPie
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at the debate the 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙑𝙄𝘾𝙏 made a claim about illegal immigrants - he said "They're taking Black jobs"

this led to a frenzy of internet jokes and memes

how effing stooooooopid does a candidate have to be to make a remark like that_____________?

pretty effing stoooooopid


https://archive.ph/JYmgL


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Since I know black people who believe that, to say what Trump said could be resonating in that community

In the past discomfort with the Dem candidates makes them stay home, they won't vote at all

PS what a stupid article! Pretending to think that 'black jobs' would mean set-aside jobs for black people. Black people know what it means to lose jobs to immigrants. Or perhaps we can also pretend that our Af/Ams don't populate lower paying jobs to a greater degree
I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]
June 29th, 2024 at 8:03:36 AM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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One of the worst statements Joe Biden made was talking about how he was the second youngest Senator of all time when elected (this is debatable, because there do appear to be some Senators in their 20s prior to 1830 when apparently the age requirements were either not enforced or not in place yet,) but certainly of modern senators, he timed it perfectly to get elected right at 30. But, when he was running in 1972 he was a young hotshot who would turn 30 just in time, and everyone loved him (DE was a red State at the time, and he was still popular.) When you look at the difference now, it is night and day, so even though most people do not remember, it is probably not great to show such a contract. He went from being made fun of by some for being too young, and not the opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCZ5_XwqchE&t=62s
June 29th, 2024 at 9:08:03 AM permalink
PotPie
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Quote: odiousgambit
Or perhaps we can also pretend that our Af/Ams don't populate lower paying jobs to a greater degree

that is not the issue

the suggestion or implication is that black people can't do or are not interested in high level jobs

that low level jobs are the kind of jobs that black people want to do

and there is no shortage of low level jobs in the big cities or suburbs - where I live, a suburb of a big city there are signs everywhere enticing applicants for low level jobs - it is the higher level jobs that so many people want that are much more difficult to land

it would have been an appropriate remark for 1958 - not for 2024

the black VP Candidate Kamala Harris is way, more educated and way, way smarter than him

one more time - it was a really stooooooooooooopid comment from the 𝘾𝙊𝙉𝙑𝙄𝘾𝙏


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the foolish sayings of a rich man pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
June 29th, 2024 at 9:35:50 AM permalink
Evenbob
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This is not a fake this is the actual Time magazine cover after the debate.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 29th, 2024 at 10:13:25 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Cool cover actually. All Democrats need to do is decide if we’re taking a gamble one way or the other. Stay the course, or replacement? Either choice will be better than Trump.

If Biden is really deteriorating fast, they better come out with it soon. No way we can keep hiding it for 4 months if it’s true. If not, guess we have no choice in my opinion to enact a change.. You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes, if that turns out to be the only realistic option, so be it.
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.