General Election 2024

Quote: rxwine

If Biden is really deteriorating fast, they better come out with it soon. No way we can keep hiding it for 4 months if it’s true. .

IF?? He's been deteriorating since the day he took office you just haven't been paying attention. To us on the Right none of this is a surprise we see this all the time from the Right Wing Outlets. We see the real Biden and you never do because you don't care to. Keep hiding it for 4 months? They've been trying to hide it for three and a half years and not succeeding. All they succeed with is the deaf dumb and blind lefties but the rest of us have seen what's going on in real time.

Quote: Evenbob

IF?? He's been deteriorating since the day he took office you just haven't been paying attention. To us on the Right none of this is a surprise we see this all the time from the Right Wing Outlets. We see the real Biden and you never do because you don't care to. Keep hiding it for 4 months? They've been trying to hide it for three and a half years and not succeeding. All they succeed with is the deaf dumb and blind lefties but the rest of us have seen what's going on in real time.

I can tell you right now, there are several MAGA republicans smart enough to know that Donny is not innocent in several things, but they are saying otherwise. It's generally for political reasons, not because they are blind.

Same with some Democrats.

Everyone can say what they want to say. With some luck, Democrats will figure out where Biden is actually cognitively speaking in relation to staying in. Or what we want to do, if not.

Even though the issue isn't exactly simple, the overall goal on the left should be, to figure out what is next best move to win the election. Legally, of course.

I'm not for saving Biden at all costs if it doesn't meet that goal. But that's what we want to figure out.

Quote: PotPie

.pretty effing stoooooopid

pretty effing stoooooopid to believe that NYT article

The Facts:

From the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis:

Employment Level - Native Born

Total Native Born Employed Oct. 2019: 131,721 million
Total Native Born Employed May 2024 : 130,445 million

Total Loss in Employment Level of Native Born: -1,276,000 jobs

Employment Level - Foreign Born

Total Foreign Born Employed Oct. 2019: 27,346 million
Total Foreign Born Employed May 2024: 30,896 million

Total Gain in Employment for Foreign Born: +3,550,000 jobs

Combined Employment Level

Employment Level Oct. 2019: 158,545 million
Employment Level May 2024: 161,083 million

Total Gain in Employment Level: 2,238,000

Foreign Born got all of the 2,238,000 jobs added since Oct. 2019 plus 1,276,000 more from the Native Born Americans.

Quote: rxwine

Even though the issue isn't exactly simple, the overall goal on the left should be, to figure out what is next best move to win the election. Legally, of course.

I'm not for saving Biden at all costs if it doesn't meet that goal. But that's what we want to figure out.

What’s with the “we” part. You are stating it like it’s anyone’s choice but Joe’s. It’s too late for that.

Quote: mcallister3200

What’s with the “we” part. You are stating it like it’s anyone’s choice but Joe’s. It’s too late for that.

I'm assuming he can be convinced if it came down to it. Nixon didn't plan to resign either, until he was convinced.

Hope it doesn't come to that.

Let’s wait till Monday and see if the SCOTUS is going to let Biden take out Donny with Seal Team 6. 🙏🤞

Quote: mcallister3200

What’s with the “we” part. You are stating it like it’s anyone’s choice but Joe’s. It’s too late for that.

Yep, it's totally up to Jill Biden what happens because Joe does whatever she tells him to do. And if she thinks there's a single chance in hell that he has of winning the election she's not going to quit. What has she got to lose by staying. The Democrats would never invoke the 25th Amendment because that would mean Kamala would be president and they would be in even worse shape than they are now. Nobody on either side can stand her. She's a blooming idiot who acts like she's drunk half the time because she probably is.

I picture Jill pushing 85 yo Kaufman aside ... he may be in worse shape than Joe

Valerie and Jill could easily hate each other, knowing how women are, but if Valerie wants Joe out, that battle also has a clear winner already

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Dr. Jill Biden; his younger sister, Valerie Biden; and 85-year-old Ted Kaufman, the president's longtime friend and constant adviser — plus a small band of White House advisers — are the only Biden deciders.

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/29/biden-debate-replace-advisers

https://exhibitions.lib.udel.edu/kaufman/home/about/#