The Trump Arrest thread

July 13th, 2023 at 3:53:43 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: Gandler
I don't understand the right's obsession with San Franscisco and Cali. It is one of the safest cities by murder rate and violent crime.


Not true.

The total crime index for SF is 2, with 100 being safest. SF is safer than only 2% of US neighborhoods.

The violent crime rate in SF is 22% higher than the state average.

If you studied that link you provided, you would see the homicide rate in SF is 87% higher than it is in NYC.
July 13th, 2023 at 5:23:49 AM permalink
ams288
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Seeing as this thread is the Trump Arrest thread, is it possible to sentence him to live in skid row in SF?
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July 13th, 2023 at 5:43:28 AM permalink
rxwine
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Seeing as this thread is the Trump Arrest thread, is it possible to sentence him to live in skid row in SF?


Sentenced to a regular jail with his more delusional supporters as roommates would be suitable punishment. It would probably drive him insane having to actually listen to them all day.
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July 13th, 2023 at 7:30:22 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: Tanko
Not true.

The total crime index for SF is 2, with 100 being safest. SF is safer than only 2% of US neighborhoods.

The violent crime rate in SF is 22% higher than the state average.

If you studied that link you provided, you would see the homicide rate in SF is 87% higher than it is in NYC.


The problem with that link is it combines property complaints with violent crime. San Francisco is higher than Cali on average (Cali is a very safe state). Higher than NYC yes. Safer than most cities.

For example the most dangerous city by murder rate is in Missouri (St Louis) by a large rate, you know that deep blue State......

The safest cities are in blue states, the most dangerous cities are in red states.
July 13th, 2023 at 7:55:32 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Gandler

The safest cities are in blue states, the most dangerous cities are in red states.


That is largely true, but the areas in those cities that are dangerous are Counties that vote democratic. Don't blame the rednecks for the violence.
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July 13th, 2023 at 10:45:32 AM permalink
missedhervee
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The country is doing great? Not if you are a retiree seeing your nest egg withering away due to inflation.


Pshaw.

My investments in the market, including both stocks and mutual funds, are doing very well, thank you, and I put most of my cash into 3-month CD's earning close to five percent.

Keep on rockin' in the Free World
July 13th, 2023 at 11:41:57 AM permalink
DRich
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Pshaw.

My investments in the market, including both stocks and mutual funds, are doing very well, thank you, and I put most of my cash into 3-month CD's earning close to five percent.

Keep on rockin' in the Free World


I have put my liquid cash in a savings account paying 4.85%.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a deterrent.
July 14th, 2023 at 7:35:24 AM permalink
Mission146
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CNN has the audio that is gonna land Donny in jail:

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1673487904465616896?s=46&t=YzY5S35GIt5OOF8vvdFyAA

So much worse than just reading the transcript.


The problem that Trump supporters have is either having to either triple-down, or alternatively admit, other than being a masterful salesperson, that they threw in behind one of the most personally corrupt, morally bankrupt and dumbest people to ever live.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
July 14th, 2023 at 7:38:34 AM permalink
Mission146
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Not Biden’s per se, but 100% liberal Democrat policies. Empower the homeless. Free the criminally charged. Ignore ‘minor’ crimes like shoplifting. Take money from taxpayers to pay the non working class. Consider the idiocy of reparations. Punish sales of high price homes. Flood the state with illegals. What you childishly call a boogeyman are the FACTS of Democrat party leadership.


I don't know what you think is going to happen when the working class gets replaced with AI. Both a world economy and the elimination of a substantial percentage of menial labor are both eventualities, so then what remains is what do we do, economically, in response to that.

It seems reasonable to me that the rich pay to take care of the people they have replaced. What I would probably suggest is having a UBI, but eliminating every single social safety net that exists other than that.
"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman
July 14th, 2023 at 8:43:03 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: kenarman
That is largely true, but the areas in those cities that are dangerous are Counties that vote democratic. Don't blame the rednecks for the violence.


You can because those cities exist in gun friendly states. This is the major factor. The city can be blue all day long, if it exists in a state with guns everywhere, guns will infiltrate where they should not. State law influences crime.