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December 12th, 2024 at 11:46:21 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: odiousgambit
I think that was pretty much on the nose

except I don't know how culpable Univ of Penn is


It is a left wing reeducation camp but proving liability be difficult.
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December 12th, 2024 at 12:27:57 PM permalink
Gandler
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Believe it or not, I am firmly in the camp that Daniel Penny is a hero. I actually just found out today that he was an immigrant (from Iceland, who joined the Marines for citizenship,) not really relevant to this case, but just an interesting fact.

I am embarrassed of the amount of crazy people who harass people on subways and trains and nothing gets done. Maybe he had the guts to do something because he did not grow up in American culture? (I have a feeling you do not see such people on Iceland trains.)
December 12th, 2024 at 4:40:55 PM permalink
missedhervee
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We need more vigilantes to "take out the trash."

Well done.
December 12th, 2024 at 6:13:38 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: missedhervee
We need more vigilantes to "take out the trash."

Well done.


I mean he is not really a vigilante, he was defending people on the train. It was just an unfortunate situation where he stepped up.
December 13th, 2024 at 3:51:43 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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A tale of two Democrats

on the CEO killer:
Elizabeth Warren , “violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.”

John Fetterman, “the asshole that’s going to die in prison,”
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December 13th, 2024 at 4:11:08 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
A tale of two Democrats

on the CEO killer:
Elizabeth Warren , “violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.”

John Fetterman, “the asshole that’s going to die in prison,”


Plenty of evidence in history that ordinary people can only be pushed so far.
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December 13th, 2024 at 5:35:20 AM permalink
Riverjordan
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Quote: rxwine
Quote: odiousgambit
A tale of two Democrats

on the CEO killer:
Elizabeth Warren , “violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.”

John Fetterman, “the asshole that’s going to die in prison,”


Plenty of evidence in history that ordinary people can only be pushed so far.


A quote I read somewhere. "If you keep punching a punching bag, eventually the punching bag will start punching you right back." 💡
Alec Baldwin's gun should have been CGI. Would have prevented the tragedy. Facts.
December 13th, 2024 at 5:52:15 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: odiousgambit
A tale of two Democrats

on the CEO killer:
Elizabeth Warren , “violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.”

John Fetterman, “the asshole that’s going to die in prison,”



There's a bunch of blues swapping sides.

Fetterman seems to be close.

But good gosh, what took them so long to figure things out?
December 13th, 2024 at 6:21:01 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: Gandler
Believe it or not, I am firmly in the camp that Daniel Penny is a hero. I actually just found out today that he was an immigrant (from Iceland, who joined the Marines for citizenship,) not really relevant to this case, but just an interesting fact.


Where did you get that?

He was born in West Islip, Long Island in 1999 before emigrating to the West Village.
December 13th, 2024 at 6:43:36 AM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: AZDuffman
Monday morning quarterback is such an easy job.

I say if you don’t want to be choked don’t attack people.


The use of force as defined under Article 35 of the NYS Penal Code, is only justified when three conditions are met simultaneously. Any use of force in order to be justified, must be reasonable, authorized and necessary.

Once Neely stopped resisting after being restrained by Penny and two other male passengers, the choke hold was no longer necessary. It was also no longer reasonable.

His martial arts instructor from the Marine Corp testified Penny was taught that 'applying a choke would "render your aggressor unconscious," then Marines are told to release pressure immediately, otherwise it "could lead to injury or death."

He meant well. He screwed up. He was lucky. He will lose the civil suit.