In the News II

Quote: AZDuffman

I think you need to learn about the honor code cadets are expected to abide themselves by. She was not only compelled to not cheat but to "rat out" those who do.

Yeah, rat out 120 classmates? Why is that only her failure, and not the other 120 who also could have reported it?

Basically every college has an honor code saying such. (Sure military academies are a little different because you are actually subject to military law, so it's even more strict than being a regular college student,) However regardless, no student at any college military or not, is going to be like "our whole class had unfair access to the exam we all need to be subject to discipline...". Like if you think any student would ever do this, you are living in fantasy land...

Now, if she was the sole cheater, I would care (she also would be kicked out, but you can't really kick out a whole class.) But, going a long with your classmates is normal.

If it came out that Trump had early access to an exam or a similar situation for a random college exam for a random class, along with every class mate, you would not care at all. In fact you would think it is absurd that people are even talking about it...

Also, this is not even getting into the fact that those academic records were supposed to be sealed, and they were illegally released via a political sting... So it's not something that is fair to talk about anyway...

Quote: Gandler

Yeah, rat out 120 classmates? Why is that only her failure, and not the other 120 who also could have reported it?

Basically every college has an honor code saying such. (Sure military academies are a little different because you are actually subject to military law, so it's even more strict than being a regular college student,) However regardless, no student at any college military or not, is going to be like "our whole class had unfair access to the exam we all need to be subject to discipline...". Like if you think any student would ever do this, you are living in fantasy land...

Now, if she was the sole cheater, I would care (she also would be kicked out, but you can't really kick out a whole class.) But, going a long with your classmates is normal.

If it came out that Trump had early access to an exam or a similar situation for a random college exam for a random class, along with every class mate, you would not care at all. In fact you would think it is absurd that people are even talking about it...

Also, this is not even getting into the fact that those academic records were supposed to be sealed, and they were illegally released via a political sting... So it's not something that is fair to talk about anyway...

Some colleges have a higher honor code than others. The military academies probably have the most stringent. Behind them would be the ivies. I went to a state school and have no idea if we had one or not.

If we are going to go back to high school for SCOTUS justices then her record is fair game IMHO.

Quote: AZDuffman

Some colleges have a higher honor code than others. The military academies probably have the most stringent. Behind them would be the ivies. I went to a state school and have no idea if we had one or not.

If we are going to go back to high school for SCOTUS justices then her record is fair game IMHO.

Except, it is legally not, it was not supposed to be released, somebody violated all kinds of laws and policies to release it.

Also, what is essentially an accusation of participating in an exam that was administered incorrectly is far different than rape allegations. I know it is technically cheating, but is it though? (I literally don't care at all, and I would not care if it was a Republican, this is an non-issue.)

My view is, if colleges can't keep their question banks private, the fault is on the instructors. If a student is able to acquire it, the only fault is with the school for not securing it (or changing it every semester.) I know that is not even exactly what happened here, but I always see YouTube videos of professors flipping out at "cheaters" in their class who studied the exam bank. Maybe, they (teachers/professors) are the ones at fault for not taking the effort to make updated exams every semester and keeping it secure?

Duffman going on about an honor code in light of his favorite President ever, is truly deranged.

Quote: Gandler

Except, it is legally not, it was not supposed to be released, somebody violated all kinds of laws and policies to release it.

I wonder if you were so upset when Trump's tax returns were illegally released?

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Also, what is essentially an accusation of participating in an exam that was administered incorrectly is far different than rape allegations. I know it is technically cheating, but is it though? (I literally don't care at all, and I would not care if it was a Republican, this is an non-issue.)

A-L-L-E-G-A-T-I-O-N-S. From a HIGH SCHOOL party. From a clearly mentally unstable woman. All brought up solely because he did not love abortion.

Quote: AZDuffman

I wonder if you were so upset when Trump's tax returns were illegally released?



A-L-L-E-G-A-T-I-O-N-S. From a HIGH SCHOOL party. From a clearly mentally unstable woman. All brought up solely because he did not love abortion.

I was, confidential information should never be released (it wasn't just targeting Trump though it was a data dump of all kinds of rich people.) And, the leaker was sentenced to prison (as he should be.) I have a feeling the reproductions here will be less (or non-existent.)

I'm not going to get into HS allegations, didn't care then, don't care now. This is something I have literally never talked about that I can recall. In fact I have never really talked about Kavenough much at all because I don't have a massive issue with him. I'm not sure why you keep framing him as some gotcha against me, he is fine, for a conservative justice he is one of the more reasonable ones, not sure what else you want from me on this issue.

Quote: AZDuffman

I wonder if you were so upset when Trump's tax returns were illegally released?



A-L-L-E-G-A-T-I-O-N-S. From a HIGH SCHOOL party. From a clearly mentally unstable woman. All brought up solely because he did not love abortion.

So in Duffy's world, what types of legally protected information-academic records, sealed court records, certain military records, medical records, etc, are "fair game" for public release by political enemies?

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Authorities have arrested a suspect in the Palisades fire after a nine-month investigation into the blaze that killed 12 people.


The devastating fire that destroyed thousands of homes appears to have been a rekindling of an earlier New Year's Day fire.


The most destructive inferno in Los Angeles history, which charred a devastating path through Pacific Palisades and Malibu in early January, was a flare-up of a fire that an Uber driver intentionally set days earlier near a popular hiking area, federal prosecutors alleged Wednesday.

Authorities announced the arrest of the Uber driver, 29-year-old Jonathan Rinderknecht, who is suspected of setting the initial fire early New Year's Day that eventually became the Palisades fire

If any guy might get killed in jail, I’d guess he’ll have a good chance of it.

Quote: GenoDRPh

So in Duffy's world, what types of legally protected information-academic records, sealed court records, certain military records, medical records, etc, are "fair game" for public release by political enemies?

I don't think any kind of sealed or confidential record should be released. If there is something legally relevant, get a court order.

But, rogue insiders leaking stuff to political allies is the stuff that erodes trust and causes all kinds of other issues (now people have to waste time getting advanced training and more tedious policies get put in place that 99.9999% of people don't need....)

But, that is my view, it is not a partisan issue for me, what is wrong is wrong, regardless of whose record it was, period...

Quote: rxwine

If any guy might get killed in jail, I’d guess he’ll have a good chance of it.

What was his motivation? I can't find a ton of information. Was it an insurance fraud that spread out of control, or is he just a psycho pryo? Or was it a camp fire that he just lost control of?

If it was a camping fire where he accidentally lost control, while he is a moron, and likely broke laws lighting a fire where he should not, I would be far more forgiving of him than if it was insurance fraud or pryo nonsense.

I honestly don't think he would be a big target in prison, unless he did such a fire on behalf of a rival gang or such. Nobody in such prisons is going to care at all about a clueless camper burning down some rich rural houses.