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January 31st, 2025 at 7:28:42 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
No, I don't hate Libertarianism, I hate Trump.

Wait...he was democrat for decades, then he switched to being a republican, and now he's a Libertarian?


He governs libertarian. More than anyone of our time.
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February 1st, 2025 at 9:25:42 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
He governs libertarian. More than anyone of our time.


This is absolutely false. Libertarians do not believe in borders, or expansion. No libertarian would lock down a border, deport cheap labor, and try to take over new land. You don't even need to get into economic stuff, this alone makes it impossible for him to be a libertarian (polar opposite in fact.)
February 1st, 2025 at 10:37:19 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
This is absolutely false. Libertarians do not believe in borders, or expansion. No libertarian would lock down a border, deport cheap labor, and try to take over new land. You don't even need to get into economic stuff, this alone makes it impossible for him to be a libertarian (polar opposite in fact.)


You are talking of anarchists not libertarians.
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February 1st, 2025 at 11:13:13 AM permalink
rxwine
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Someone forgot to tell the Libertarian party.

Quote:
Trump, accustomed to friendly crowds, confronts repeated booing during Libertarian convention speech


https://apnews.com/article/trump-libertarian-convention-rfk-jr-biden-816e3209fdf993c2ba7f6caed0ebcdb7
"Trumpsplain (def.) explaining absolute nonsense said by TRUMP.
February 1st, 2025 at 11:26:07 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine


The Libertarian party hates anyone who does even one thing they do not agree 100% with, which is why they never get anywhere.
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February 1st, 2025 at 11:36:07 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
The Libertarian party hates anyone who does even one thing they do not agree 100% with, which is why they never get anywhere.


You beat me to it I was going to say exactly the same thing. To be a Libertarian you have to buy all the crap they're selling or they won't consider you a libertarian. It's much like being a Baptist, you have to go along with all of it or they'll kick you out.
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February 1st, 2025 at 12:55:49 PM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: AZDuffman
The Libertarian party hates anyone who does even one thing they do not agree 100% with, which is why they never get anywhere.


Wait...you said Trump is a Libertarian, so didn't they in fact get somewhere?
February 1st, 2025 at 1:22:32 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
Wait...you said Trump is a Libertarian, so didn't they in fact get somewhere?


No, because instead of enjoying his governing as a libertarian they are acting like a bunch of 5 year old girls throwing hissy fits because their dad would not buy them the latest doll they want.
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February 1st, 2025 at 1:45:52 PM permalink
missedhervee
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So...is he a Libertarian in a republican costume?
February 1st, 2025 at 1:49:38 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: missedhervee
So...is he a Libertarian in a republican costume?


He is an independent who took a party's nomination. That is why the GOP establishment hates him.

Party affiliation is no guarantee of getting party ideology. That is what happened with McCain. He was a RINO.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
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