Charlie Kirk murder

September 18th, 2025 at 10:43:31 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman
Guns didn’t kill. The tranny killed.


Legal offensive free speech didn’t kill him either.
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September 18th, 2025 at 11:00:06 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
Guns didn’t kill. The tranny killed.


The killer having access to guns killed. Guns are meant for killing, when you let everyone have them, more people will kill.
September 18th, 2025 at 11:05:53 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Gandler
The killer having access to guns killed. Guns are meant for killing, when you let everyone have them, more people will kill.


No, the killer killed. Not the gun. People who want to kill will kill.


Would it make you feel better if he ran people over in his car?
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September 18th, 2025 at 11:12:04 AM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, the killer killed. Not the gun. People who want to kill will kill.


Would it make you feel better if he ran people over in his car?


This is a bad argument. You guys always say "well they just kill with knives and swords then." And, this is true, it happens, but research mass knife attacks, at most they get one or two people before they are easily stopped. Mass knifings are pretty much impossible to pull off.

So yes, I would prefer if they tried a less effective method because more people would have survived.
September 18th, 2025 at 11:32:52 AM permalink
GenoDRPh
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, the killer killed. Not the gun. People who want to kill will kill.


Would it make you feel better if he ran people over in his car?


Hard to run over someone in a car from 142 yards away.
September 18th, 2025 at 11:48:08 AM permalink
PotPie
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, the killer killed. Not the gun. People who want to kill will kill.


Would it make you feel better if he ran people over in his car?

killers with guns try to be cagey and hide their actions or throw away the guns -
many times they succeed in not being caught
nationally only about 58% of murderers are convicted

if a car was the main alternative to killing because guns were not available imo there would be way, way less killing

it would be close to impossible not to get caught and the would be killers would realize this

I would estimate there would be at least 80% fewer murders

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September 18th, 2025 at 12:30:26 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: Gandler
And, would it have been less deadly if the shooter was not wearing opposite gender clothes?
since it is unheard of for women who aren't trying to chemically become men to commit this specific type of murder, surely you agree it wouldn't have happened at all
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Or would it have been less deadly if the shooter did not have access to guns?
I am on record with this Utah case in saying that these weird philosophies mixed with a gun nut family culture is a deadly cocktail
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September 18th, 2025 at 12:32:52 PM permalink
missedhervee
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assassination...a variation on that old marketing theme "Reach out and touch someone."

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September 19th, 2025 at 8:27:45 AM permalink
rxwine
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Just another reason, the removal of Kimmel wasn't just a business decision. Other than it was already obvious.

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"I am your retribution" is a political slogan used by Donald Trump during his 2024 presidential campaign. The statement is a vow to pursue vengeance on behalf of his supporters against his perceived political enemies and anyone he believes has wronged them
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September 19th, 2025 at 9:40:05 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: rxwine
Just another reason, the removal of Kimmel wasn't just a business decision. Other than it was already obvious.


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