Charlie Kirk murder

September 12th, 2025 at 8:13:11 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: fleaswatter


Get convicted for a crime. Go to jail. Pretty easy. Or in this case, probably get executed.

Trump pardoned people who beat police officers. Another thing I don't give him a pass for.
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September 12th, 2025 at 8:20:14 PM permalink
fleaswatter
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Since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, did anyone else see on the news

-the rioting in cities across the country
-cars set on fire
-police attacked
-stores looted and burned
-protests blocking streets
-etc. etc. etc.



Well, neither did I
September 12th, 2025 at 8:43:55 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: fleaswatter
Since Charlie Kirk was assassinated, did anyone else see on the news

-the rioting in cities across the country
-cars set on fire
-police attacked
-stores looted and burned
-protests blocking streets
-etc. etc. etc.



Well, neither did I


Rioting? I thought they were talking about war? Steve Bannon and Alex Jones, have described the situation as "war".

A good war takes more planning.
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September 12th, 2025 at 9:21:02 PM permalink
rxwine
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More stupidity.


Quote:
Black students across the US were targeted this week by coordinated racist death threats, forcing at least seven historically Black colleges into emergency lockdowns just a day after the far-right activist Charlie Kirk was killed at Utah Valley University.


Shooter didn't appear to be black.
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September 13th, 2025 at 2:53:08 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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A few thoughts as I get ready for work.

The guy will probably end up pleading guilty to avoid the death penalty. I don't know that he could plead no contest but if he did that might remove his requirement to allocute. He probably already has some groupies out there who if he goes to the state system will put money on his books and write him. That is why I think he might end up in the federal system, high risk inmate, etc.

If he goes to trial it will be happening next year.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
September 13th, 2025 at 5:16:18 AM permalink
sonotawhale
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Like incels who join groups headed by known loud and proud child molesters?
September 13th, 2025 at 5:25:17 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Gandler
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Quote: odiousgambit
Just speculating. There are pictures of him when pretty young handling military type equipment, plus other pictures handling guns happily, which made me wonder and doesn't prove anything

You don't think there is such a thing as gun nuts?

the below may turn out to not be him. There are others. Could I see myself enjoying handling this? sure. So doesn't prove a thing. But I wonder


https://www.oneindia.com/international/tyler-robinson-a-trained-sharpshooter-22-year-old-utah-student-arrested-in-charlie-kirk-shooting-7858281.html


Wait so his Dad is a cop and a Christian preacher, and a gun advocate. His mom is an active Republican (both registered Republicans,) and people are still saying he was raised in a far left house?


‘People’ are saying?!? I’ll tell you what SOOPOO is saying. His ACT of targeting and assassinating a far Right advocate is evidence enough for me that he is a left wing killer. I don’t know how he was raised. I don’t know what influenced him to become the cold blooded murderer he is. It’s a story I frankly don’t want to hear. The only thing I want to hear about this is the death of this guy. Sooner better than later.


If he parents were active on the far left would your statement about his home life not mattering be the same?


Yes. I hate hearing about anything about these killers. These crazies are formed ‘both’ ways. Either following in their parents footsteps, or ‘rebelling’ against their parents teachings. Then we hear how they were ‘radicalized’ somewhere down the road. I do think NOW that the rhetoric from the left is more dangerous. What are they encouraging with ‘existential threat to Democracy’’? And such.
September 13th, 2025 at 7:01:29 AM permalink
Gandler
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So I wasn't going to get into this issue until Trump posted something over the top, and even so it's still pretty conspiratorial.

Trump just posted "Everyone Loved Charlie" on his social media. This sounds innocuous, until you look at the photo attached to the post. It is Trump and Charlie shaking hands in front of an Israeli flag with the caption "RIP shlomo perl".

Historically, Kirk was strongly pro-Israel, and that slowly started to change in recent months, though he was still pretty supportive. However, there are rumors he was considering becoming heavily critical of Israel and was advised that his security would not be able to protect him.

Then he is shot. Now, Trump is posting photos with "shlomo perl" and the Israeli flag. Almost as if trying to make him a permanent friend of Israel.

I can't post the photo of Trump's post, but if you search it, it is easy enough to find. And, I think we may know what he means by "RIP shlomo perl..."
September 13th, 2025 at 8:27:10 AM permalink
Gandler
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/09/12/trump-blamed-charlie-kirk-murder-on-radical-left-data-says-right-wing-extremists-kill-more/86116958007/

"The libertarian Cato Institute notes politically motivated violence is rare in the U.S. Alex Nowrasteh, said that 3,599 people died in politically motivated attacks from 1975 through Sept. 10, 2025. Eighty-three percent of those were on 9/11, followed by the Oklahoma City Bombing with 5% of the total.

That breakdown looks like:

Islamism: 3,122
Right: 391
Left: 65
Unknown/Other: 9
Foreign nationalism: 8
Separatism: 4"
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Even without counting Islam, the right wing is 6x more violent politically. I still hold the belief that Islamic violence is right-wing violence, making the right 60x more violent.
September 13th, 2025 at 9:15:59 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Quote: rxwine
Shooter didn't appear to be black.


Nope, he's white and Mormon.

I guess that the "Magic Underwear" that Mormons ar supposed to wear didn't protect the shooter from getting caught: where then is the "Magic?"