the death of coal?

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October 14th, 2021 at 7:40:07 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Tanko
Now, there's a global coal shortage.


Remember under Trump all the liberals screaming it was a bad thing because someone OPENED a coal mine?
The President is a fink.
October 14th, 2021 at 8:36:12 AM permalink
Evenbob
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"(Reuters) -The White House has been speaking with U.S. oil and gas producers in recent days about helping to bring down rising fuel costs, according to two sources familiar with the matter."

Yet the first thing Beijing Joe did when he took over was shut
down the Keystone Pipeline. Earlier this week he was bragging
about how he was shutting down new drilling in Alaska. And
now they're begging oil companies to lower their prices? Are
these people certifiably insane? Gas prices are at a seven-year
high and are threatening to go much higher this winter.
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October 14th, 2021 at 9:06:13 AM permalink
Tanko
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Federal government is forecasting consumers will be paying 43% more for home heating oil and 30% more for natural gas, this winter.

Under Trump we were energy independent and a net oil exporter for the first time in 75 years.

Two months into the Biden administration, we were importing record amounts of Russian oil.

By May, the US was purchasing 844,000 barrels of Russian oil per day.
October 14th, 2021 at 9:34:22 AM permalink
RonC
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Propane prices locally have gone from $2.20/gallon to $2.85/gallon since spring. I have a 1000 gallon tank, so filling it can be costly. Luckily, most of it is in reserve for use in case of power outages (we have a whole home generator) and we only use about 300 gallons a year for heating, cooking, and hot water. That will still cost around $195 more for the coming year,,,without the expected price increases coming up.

I keep the tank filled (80%) because it would take most of a tank to cover a week without power form the grid. I guess I could use some of the reserve anticipating lower prices later, but I doubt they are coming any time soon.
October 14th, 2021 at 10:31:10 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Tanko
Federal government is forecasting consumers will be paying 43% more for home heating oil and 30% more for natural gas, this winter.

Under Trump we were energy independent and a net oil exporter for the first time in 75 years.

Two months into the Biden administration, we were importing record amounts of Russian oil.

By May, the US was purchasing 844,000 barrels of Russian oil per day.


Either way, I'm amused that some people think the answer is to be ready to burn more fossil fuel.
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October 14th, 2021 at 12:32:01 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine


Either way, I'm amused that some people think the answer is to be ready to burn more fossil fuel.


Why? Fossil fuels work and work well. Proven for 150+ years. If we were using just solar and wind and today for the first time discovered natural gas, coal, and oil they would be seen as a major improvement.
The President is a fink.
January 15th, 2022 at 9:13:08 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Tanko
Federal government is forecasting consumers will be paying 43% more for home heating oil and 30% more for natural gas, this winter.


I don't know what the prediction is for electricity, but the rate sure seems to be going up. Currently when my contract runs out in 3 months I can expect to pay 30% more for generation.

Of the major coal electrical generation plants in the nation (over half a million tons of CO2 per year) at least three are closing this year

State Name CO2 emissions Tons/year ---------------- Retirement
  1.  Iowa Lansing 994,097 2018 ---------------- December 2022
  2.  North Carolina G. G. Allen 974,310 2019 ---------------- December 2024
  3.  Pennsylvania Cheswick 896,561 2019 ---------------- April 2022
  4.  Pennsylvania Colver 825,517 2019
  5.  North Carolina Canton 819,429 2018
  6.  Florida Deerhaven 808,276 2019
  7.  Pennsylvania John B. Rich Memorial 795,758 2019
  8.  Michigan Erickson 765,200 2019 ---------------- December 2025
  9.  New Jersey Carney's Point 711,573 2019 ---------------- March 2024
  10.  Illinois Ingredion Incorporated 693,731 2019
  11.  North Dakota R. M. Heskett 645,998 2018 ---------------- March 2022
  12.  Oklahoma Hugo 642,062 2019
  13.  New Jersey Logan 621,520 2018
  14.  Nebraska Platte 591,747 2019
  15.  Michigan TES Filer City 563,562 2018
  16.  Oklahoma Muskogee Mill 560,787 2019
  17.  Nebraska Lon D. Wright 521,858 2019
January 18th, 2022 at 11:01:46 AM permalink
missedhervee
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Bill Gates and Uncle Sam are building a sodium-cooled nuclear reactor in Wyoming in the heart of coal country.

New Nuclear Power Plant
January 18th, 2022 at 2:10:24 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: kenarman
I hope all the environmentalists and bureaucrats that caused the delay will also go to jail.
better link below, kind of a weird thing he was convicted of

Quote:
[this person] unlawfully engage[d] or participate[d] in the production or development of special nuclear material outside the U.S.


well that's all that industry needed is some idiot

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-nuclear-engineer-sentenced-24-months-prison-violating-atomic-energy-act
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January 19th, 2022 at 9:58:31 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: missedhervee
Bill Gates and Uncle Sam are building a sodium-cooled nuclear reactor in Wyoming in the heart of coal country.


It's an interesting choice to build it in such a deeply Republican conservative place in a state where coal is the lifeblood, but desperation means it is a lot easier to build than in Washington State where people will be more vocal in their protests.

The only nuclear power plant in Washington state began construction on August 1, 1972 and it only has one generator. It is one of only three left in the Western interconnect, the main one being Palo Verde in Arizona which has three generators, and the Diablo Canyon plant in California with two generators. Diablo will definately close in 2024-25 as they have withdrawn their application to continue their license for an additional 20 years. Even if they should have a change of heart, it is too late to get the license.

Under present California law passed in 2018, not only will it be illegal to operate a nuclear power plant in California, you will not be able to purchase electricity generated from a nuclear power plant in another state. Right now, California institutions own about 1/4 of Palo Verde plant in Arizona.

At least three nuclear plants have had state legislation pass within weeks of closing and are staying open for additional years. But you can't do that if you don't have a license from NRC, and that takes several years.

Another plant is being constructed in Idaho that will also open by 2030. It is only slightly larger than the Wyoming plant. Throughout its history, the U.S. nuclear laboratory at Idaho Falls (presently known as the Idaho National Laboratory or “INL”) has been home to 52 nuclear reactors, the largest concentration of nuclear reactors in the world. It was established in 1949. So there won't be any serious public protests.
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