Hey FrGamble!

Quote: Evenbob

I still think he's not being serious. Nobody
could really think think this way in 2015.

I kind of expect you to not believe in something even when there is evidence, you do this for the existence of God why should I be surprised when you do it with miracles as well. For someone who is always talking about show me the evidence, here you have scientific evidence for miracles and you simply ignore it and wish it away because it makes you uncomfortable, so sad.

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It's a 'follow the money' situation, as usual.
Teresa was the biggest money magnet the
Church ever had, and the Vatican is desperate
for her sainthood so perhaps the money flowing
spigot can be turned on again. She brought in
hundreds of millions, but it was all squandered,

What in God's name are you talking about?!? Mother Teresa lived radical poverty and whatever money she received was given to serve the poorest of the poor literally laying in the streets abandoned by society.

Quote: FrGamble

Mother Teresa lived radical poverty and whatever money she received was given to serve the poorest of the poor literally laying in the streets abandoned by society.

We already went thru this. She brought
in hundreds of millions and almost none
of it went to her charities. Many articles
have been written about this, you know
that. This is why she is so widely despised
by those who worked with her. All the
money she made went to the Vatican. She
could have cared less about the dying,
she said it was good for them to suffer.

You have a very poor memory, there is a
ton of bad stuff out there on her, from
people who knew and worked with her.
We already covered all this and you act
it's all new to you.

Quote: Evenbob

We already went thru this. She brought
in hundreds of millions and almost none
of it went to her charities.

Just a straight up lie.

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This is why she is so widely despised
by those who worked with her.

Also not true.

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All the money she made went to the Vatican.

Laughable if I didn't think you were so twisted to actually believe it.

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She could have cared less about the dying,
she said it was good for them to suffer.

She cared for the dying more than anyone else and she relieved their suffering.

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You have a very poor memory, there is a
ton of bad stuff out there on her, from
people who knew and worked with her.

There is much more good stuff about her, a few people's comments does not equate to truth. Be balanced in your statements and fair please.

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here you have scientific evidence for miracles and you simply ignore it

This is so ridiculous I'm not not even
going to get into it with you. The fact
that you say you believe this nonsense
makes me so very glad I'm an atheist.
You live in a world that doesn't exist,
a world of self delusion and self denial.
I wonder how long you can keep it up
before the cracks start to appear, and
you realize you've tricked yourself and
allowed others to trick you as well.

Quote: FrGamble

She cared for the dying more than anyone else and she relieved their suffering.

Sigh. Research that goes back decades shows
she was mostly a fraud.

"According to those who’ve volunteered there, Mother Teresa’s missions are squalid cesspits run along violent, authoritarian lines. There are reports of unruly children being tied to beds and beaten, of outdated equipment not being replaced, and of needles being reused in countries with high HIV infection rates (such as Haiti) until they were so blunt they caused pain. All of this wrapped up in a culture of unquestioning obedience, secrecy, and control that is said to resemble a cult."

She was a snob and clung to her rich friends.
Only 7% of the money donated to her found
it's way into charity. She had a twisted view
of reality, she felt the more we suffer in this
life, even children, the more holy we are
when they die. Except her, of course, who slept
in her rich friends houses every night. 'Mother
Teresa saw beauty in the downtrodden's suffering
and was far more willing to pray for them than
provide practical medical care.'

There is tons of info on her out there, the best
is done by the University of Montreal. It's been
the PR event of the century, the Vatican trying
to spin all the bad press on her into a positive
light. She deserves sainthood about as much
as Pol Pot does.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/mother-teresa-myth_n_2805697.html

http://www.rcinet.ca/en/2013/05/07/canadian-study-mother-teresa-not-so-saintly/

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/mother_teresa/sanal_ed.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa#Criticism_from_the_media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa#Quality_of_medical_care

There are many scathing testimonies from
people who worked with her. Like this one:

http://arcticbeacon.com/articles/6-Jun-2007.html

There is so much more, it's mind boggling.
She was a fairy tale that everybody wanted
to believe in. She was a cash cow for the Church,
and the angel of death for people she was
supposed to be helping. I didn't even post
any links from her greatest detractors, like
Christofer Hichens, who was onto her scam 35
years ago.

Bob your post really doesn't deserve a reply and many of the things you accuse Mother Teresa of are not listed anywhere in the articles you cite and even one of her greatest critics Christopher Hitchens, would never say some of the ridiculous and stupid things you say about her staying at wealthy people's homes or not utilizing the money she received to do anything other than serve the poorest of the poor to die with dignity instead of lying in a street somewhere ignored. You do know she died embracing poverty and that the Vatican does not receive the monies given to the Little Sisters of the Poor. Here are some links for you to look at to help you learn a little more.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celeste-owenjones/mother-theresa-critics_b_2824776.html

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2013/04/mother-teresa-and-her-critics

Quote: FrGamble

Here are some links for you to look at to help you learn a little more.

Here are some links to help YOU understand
the truth.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/09/27/mother-teresa-was-a-crook-and-a-fraud/

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2008/05/mother-teresa/

You won't read them, but I tried.

Christopher Hitchens said it so it has to be true. I admire such great faith.

Quote: Evenbob

You won't read them, but I tried.

I do read your links, I wonder if you read mine because everything mentioned and rehashed over and over in venom of your links is explained in the ones I have given. Did you read the two I gave recently?

Quote: FrGamble

I do read your links, I wonder if you read mine because everything mentioned and rehashed over and over

The best critics of MT are the people
who worked side by side with her and
reported on what a sadist she was.
She loved it when the poor suffered, in
her twisted mind it brought them closer
to god. So what, she would say when
criticized about her filthy clinics, it's
better than dying in the streets.

It says a lot about the modern Church that
that this monster is the only person they
can find to canonize.