Simple question?

Thread Rating:

April 25th, 2016 at 11:44:48 AM permalink
FrGamble
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 67
Posts: 7596
Quote: Evenbob
This is why the modern Church in in such bad shape,


Is it really the modern Church in such bad shape or modern society that is in such bad shape?
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
April 25th, 2016 at 12:01:07 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 346
Posts: 12545
Quote: FrGamble
Is it really the modern Church in such bad shape or modern society that is in such bad shape?


It's the church. Society proves it has improved by moving away from the church.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER
April 25th, 2016 at 12:29:05 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25030
Quote: FrGamble
Is it really the modern Church in such bad shape


You really want me to list all the closing
Catholic schools and all the parishes that
have no full time priest? How young men
are avoiding seminaries in droves, how the
priesthood worldwide is in crisis mode because
it's full of old men who are retiring and not
being replaced. How there are more nuns
over 90 than under 60. The Church is on
the ropes, financially, and in every other way.

Secularism is more and more becoming the
preference of intelligent people.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 25th, 2016 at 1:40:32 PM permalink
FrGamble
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 67
Posts: 7596
Quote: Nareed
It's the church. Society proves it has improved by moving away from the church.


I'm sorry I had to laugh when I read this. It's witty and creative as always, but it is also wrong. History has shown time and time again what happens when society moves away from religion, just read your 20th century history.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
April 25th, 2016 at 1:43:55 PM permalink
FrGamble
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 67
Posts: 7596
Quote: Evenbob
The Church is on
the ropes, financially, and in every other way.


Not completely true but the troubles of the Church are a symptom of the troubles of society. As a society becomes more selfish vocations to service are viewed as less important, look at how the role of a police officer is viewed today. As a society becomes more greedy donations to the needy and organizations that serve the needs of the poor are lessened. The troubles of the Church is linked to the troubles of modern society.

Quote:
Secularism is more and more becoming the
preference of intelligent people.


You guys are really making me laugh today.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
April 25th, 2016 at 1:52:43 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 346
Posts: 12545
Quote: FrGamble
just read your 20th century history.


Just follow your own advice.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER
April 25th, 2016 at 3:13:42 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25030
Quote: FrGamble
As a society becomes more greedy donations to the needy and organizations that serve the needs of the poor are lessened.


C'mon. The Church is going broke from the
billions it's paid out in hush money and
lawsuit settlements from the pedophile
scandal. This has also kept a lot of men
from becoming priests, too much of a
blemish on the profession now.. The Church
might recover, but it won't the same Church
it was 30 years ago.

Quote:
You guys are really making me laugh today.


It's inarguable, the more educated a person is, the
more intelligent they are, the more likely they
are to be secular. It's the only intelligent choice
in a modern world.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 25th, 2016 at 3:37:43 PM permalink
pew
Member since: Jan 8, 2013
Threads: 4
Posts: 1232
I've known some pretty dumb educated people. Also narrow minded.
April 25th, 2016 at 4:12:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 146
Posts: 25030
Quote: pew
I've known some pretty dumb educated people. Also narrow minded.


Are you saying it's not an axiom, that
ALL educated people aren't intelligent?
Thanks for clearing that up..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 25th, 2016 at 6:50:35 PM permalink
Nareed
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 346
Posts: 12545
In keeping with honoring Passover, here's an Egyptologist talking about the Exodus:

http://ericsguidetoancientegypt.com/?p=277

It's amazing he can talk so long about, in his own words, nothing <w>.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER