Two Gods or One

Quote: FrGamble

or any of the many other ways someone might become an atheist.

You don't 'become' an atheist, you are an atheist.
To say you become an atheist implies you were
something else first. There are atheists who were
religious people, like my ex priest friend. Or the
famous evangelist who lost his faith and wrote
books about it. But most atheists just come by
it naturally, we see no evidence for a god, so
why would we believe in one. You make it way
more complicated than it is. And yes, as I said
before, most of us feel superior to religious
people, at least I do. They make their lives
oh so complicated when they don't need to.
What a tremendous waste of time. Talking
to a god that's not there at all. My ex priest
friend says to me all the time, that half a
century later, he still regrets spending 14
years of his life working for the Church.

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Evenbob, why do you think so poorly about Christians?

See above paragraph.

It sounds like you are saying that you are an atheist either until you think about it or until you realize the truth is complicated and just chose the easiest false solution. Oh yeah, and then you think you are superior because you either decide not to think about how we got here or if there is meaning to life or you look at these questions as too complicated and gravitate to the lowest common denominator. Come on, there has to be something more to atheism than just either refusing to look at the question or running away from the big questions.

By the way I am still looking for any examples you can give about evidence that you reject or faux logic?

Quote: FrGamble

Come on, there has to be something more to atheism than just either refusing to look at the question or running away from the big questions.

Not really, we're very simple folk. There is no
question, the universe (and us) has been here
forever in one form or another. It's obvious.

If you look at god worshiping religions, all they
do is constantly try and drive that square peg
into the round hole. Reading some of the
nonsense about a trinity on that lonnnnng wiki
page, humans really love to believe they are
something special in their made up gods eye.
I guess what would be the point of inventing a
god if you weren't the center of his universe.

That's what a god believer is saying to a non believer.
"C'mon, aren't you intrigued? Don't you want some
god making you all important to him, that he knows your
every thought and loves you anyway? Just play gods
game and you've got it made." No thanks, that
kind of narcissism really unappealing.

Quote: Evenbob

Not really, we're very simple folk. There is no
question, the universe (and us) has been here
forever in one form or another. It's obvious.

It's as obvious as the desk you are sitting there has always been there forever. As long as you don't think about it I guess it makes sense.

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humans really love to believe they are
something special

I think it is pretty obvious that we are special in all of God's creation. Take a look around you, wouldn't you agree?

Quote: FrGamble

It's as obvious as the desk you are sitting there has always been there forever.

In one form or another, that's correct.

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I think it is pretty obvious that we are special in all of God's creation.

What creation, I don't see it. You think
you do, but you're mistaken. And I'm
not any more special than the dog at
my feet, how would that even be possible.
Humility is not a god worshipers long
suit.

Quote: FrGamble

until you realize the truth is complicated and just chose the easiest false solution?

Truth isn't complicated in this instance, any island or territory untouched by Christianity had all sorts of possible beliefs incompatible with Christianity until that diversity was spoiled by outsiders. Not saying they didn't have other false beliefs, they just didn't have yours yet.

Because Christianity is created by humans and only spread by humans.

Christianity was created by Christ and spread by humans at the command of Christ.

Quote: Evenbob

In one form or another, that's correct.

Here is an example of your faux logic. You can't keep tracing the history of your desk back for eternity. At some point the atoms and the stuff of atoms needed to be created. Things don't just pop into being without a cause and if they don't have the reason for their existence in themselves they depend on something else for their existence. To stop this infinite regress and to make sense as to why anything exists you need a being that has the power to create all material things and is non-contingent, meaning that He depends on nothing else for His existence, He is being itself.

Quote: FrGamble

Christianity was created by Christ and spread by humans at the command of Christ.

Nope. Same way L. Ron Hubbard did Scientology or the rest of them. It's a con game saying it was a god.

Quote: rxwine

Nope. Same way L. Ron Hubbard did Scientology or the rest of them. It's a con game saying it was a god.

If Christianity was created by Christ, then it nevertheless remains a creation of humans, as you pointed out before.