Trump vs Hillary 2016

Quote: Evenbob

First half Trump, second half Clinton. /

Huh??????
I went to google news and searched Debate poll
These headlines came back

Post-debate poll: Hillary Clinton takes round one
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-debate-poll/

Poll: Hillary Clinton wins first presidential debate
http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/09/27/poll-hillary-clinton-wins-first-presidential-debate/21479827/

Trump Allies Move to Stem Damage From Strong Clinton Debate
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-27/trump-allies-move-to-stem-damage-from-strong-clinton-debate

Clinton Victorious in First Two Debate Snap Polls
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/09/27/hillary_clinton_wins_cnn_orc_ppp_debate_polls.html

Early polls and focus groups suggest Hillary Clinton won the debate
http://www.vox.com/2016/9/27/13069088/hillary-clinton-won-first-presidential-debate

Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She's Likely To Gain In The Polls
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-won-the-debate-which-means-shes-likely-to-gain-in-the-polls/

Quote: Evenbob

First half Trump, second half Clinton.

The fact that EB can't even pretend to claim a full victory for Trump shows you just how truly awful Trump's performance was.

Quote: ams288

The fact that EB can't even pretend to claim a full victory for Trump shows you just how truly awful Trump's performance was.

I figure if Trump's supporters give Clinton an inch, it means their Orange Man got trounced.

But I didn't watch the debate, or the game either. I nearly finished Season 4 of B5. The penultimate episode feels awfully rushed.

The Daily Mail from England

"CNN's snap poll gave Clinton the win with 62 per cent to Trump's 27
But most of the others reported Trump was the winner by a landslide"

"The Drudge Report's poll showed Trump fared better with 81.5 per cent of the vote to Clinton's 18.5 while others, including Time, CBS New York and the Washington Times, also saw Trump win the vote."

As usual no one on this board looks at anything objectively and their own bias overcomes all facts.

Quote: kenarman

As usual no one on this board looks at anything objectively and their own bias overcomes all facts.

So you don't think watching Babylon 5 and reading what Clinton's supporters wrote on FB is a fair way of judging how badly trump lost the debate?

And what's biased about that? :)

Quote: Nareed

So you don't think watching Babylon 5 and reading what Clinton's supporters wrote on FB is a fair way of judging how badly trump lost the debate?

And what's biased about that? :)

I am sure it was just as effective as most of the people that watched.

Quote: kenarman

The Daily Mail from England

"CNN's snap poll gave Clinton the win with 62 per cent to Trump's 27
But most of the others reported Trump was the winner by a landslide"

"The Drudge Report's poll showed Trump fared better with 81.5 per cent of the vote to Clinton's 18.5 while others, including Time, CBS New York and the Washington Times, also saw Trump win the vote."

As usual no one on this board looks at anything objectively and their own bias overcomes all facts.

Which of those polls allowed anyone to vote 5,000 times for the candidate of their choice? And which were conducted, you know, scientifically?

Quote: ams288

Which of those polls allowed anyone to vote 5,000 times for the candidate of their choice?

Possibly all of them.

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And which were conducted, you know, scientifically?

Those take time. they need to call thousands of people, like tens to hundreds of thousands, and ask them tons of questions. many don't want to respond, many don't qualify (did not see the debate, for example), and then the raw data needs to be processed.

LA Times/USC polls have been tracking in favour of Trump for several weeks. Yesterdays poll was Trump +4 today poll is +3. Seems like the debate will have altered opinions very little since I expect those polls that have been favouring Hillary will also change little.

Quote: kenarman

The Daily Mail from England

"CNN's snap poll gave Clinton the win with 62 per cent to Trump's 27
But most of the others reported Trump was the winner by a landslide"

"The Drudge Report's poll showed Trump fared better with 81.5 per cent of the vote to Clinton's 18.5 while others, including Time, CBS New York and the Washington Times, also saw Trump win the vote."

As usual no one on this board looks at anything objectively and their own bias overcomes all facts.

Nate Silver over at 538 is pretty objective, he just wants to get it right
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-won-the-debate-which-means-shes-likely-to-gain-in-the-polls/

Predictwise is pretty objective, just looking at betting markets
Clinton rose 4 points during the debate
http://predictwise.com/

Of course we have the UK bookies. These guys have money on the line
They don't lean left or right. They Have Clinton still ahead.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner

All 3 web sites consider the Electoral college.
A nationwide poll is meaningless.