Science and Religion
October 20th, 2019 at 2:06:09 PM permalink | |
Face Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 61 Posts: 3941 |
I believe in the primordial soup theory. There's my explanation. Now we are on equal ground.
For clarity...
Exactly. Be bold and risk defeat, or be cautious and encourage it. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:10:12 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Only because you've been taught differently. To Hindu's it's not fantasy at all. It's always been here and always will be. That sounds far more logical than some god snapped his finger and popped it into existence. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:13:01 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Absolutley false. I have no duty to explain how life started. Also false, I don't know any pro-choice movements that desire people to get abortion , "Safe, Legal, and Rare" . And, that is simply not the defintion of atheist. "Atheism is, in the broadest sense, an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. " Wiki, the Google definition and most dictonieries are the same or similar.... |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:19:16 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Why are you so hung up on that one particular question. Why not, until atheists explain where electricity comes from or how black holes work, that they don't have a leg to stand on. See how ridiculous the assertion is? You can't cherry pick just one unanswered question, you have to blame god for all of them if you're going to blame him for one. God is real easy to figure out. Start with a neutral frame of mind, become a scientist, and see if you can find god. So far, they haven't. If you go in 100% certain god exists, you're screwed. You'll never find the truth. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:21:55 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
No duty, correct. Unless you want to back up your positive statement.
Oh, you need to look at reality. Exhibit One I present find me "pro-choice" groups that counsel to keep the baby and put it up for adoption. Good luck there, they do the opposite and try to hide that option. Exhibit Two go google "Shout Your Abortion." Sorry, these people are not who you think they are.
I am going to go more with Face's grid above. And do you not notice that most of the atheists here fall into the "less broadly?" Actions count, not what you read in some textbook. The President is a fink. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:24:30 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
I am not cherry-picking. Science says life cannot spontaneously generate. Atheists say they believe in science only. So they need to explain how life generated without a greater power acting on it. The President is a fink. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:30:49 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Again, you're cherry picking. Nothing can spontaneously generate. So what. This doesn't mean we should jump immediately to some supernatural conclusion. Do the research, it will eventually have an answer. In the meantime, don't assume the answer is some god, when you have no idea what the answer is. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:33:20 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18211 |
So you say life could not have come from no life? Making progress here. But do not assume the answer is there was no God involved when you just admitted you do not know what the answer is. The President is a fink. |
October 20th, 2019 at 2:41:23 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Why do assume it has to 'come' from somewhere.
The answer might be blue fairies from the planet Oompah. I have no idea. But until science figures out the answer, I will continue not to speculate. Saying god is the answer without proof is a huge mistake. 500 years ago all disease had a supernatural explanation. God or the devil was responsible. This assumption closed the door on inquiry into the real causes. Once you say god is the answer to anything, your incentive to look elsewhere dries up. Why would you look, you think you already have the answer. And 500 years ago if you told the Church you wanted to look elsewhere, good luck with that. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 20th, 2019 at 4:16:53 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4516 |
For the sake of argument I will accept your statement that only earth has life although I don't believe that is probably true. It is accepted that there are billions of stars and that planets aren't that rare. So if the conditions of life are 1 in a million? or 1 in a billion? we still can easily have life occurring through the random occurrence of extremely rare exact conditions. No outside influence required. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |