Socialism and Shortages

January 31st, 2023 at 3:17:34 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: terapined
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There is no central planning
Just a mish mash of ideas trying to make a better world
Some make sense, some are BS
in this country, since they don't have control yet, we can vote out the central planners and reverse their idiocy

it kind of looks like the up and coming generation might be the one to go for it , though. I'd beware, they'll go along with death panels for the likes of you and me, yep that too
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January 31st, 2023 at 3:49:34 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: odiousgambit
in this country, since they don't have control yet, we can vote out the central planners and reverse their idiocy

it kind of looks like the up and coming generation might be the one to go for it , though. I'd beware, they'll go along with death panels for the likes of you and me, yep that too


Are people still talking about death panels?
January 31st, 2023 at 4:14:23 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: Gandler
Are people still talking about death panels?


I don't know what death panels are so they must not be talking too much about it.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
January 31st, 2023 at 4:17:57 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Gandler
Are people still talking about death panels?

Not since the virus
We have freedom
We have Herman Cain award winners
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 31st, 2023 at 4:20:55 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: odiousgambit
in this country, since they don't have control yet, we can vote out the central planners and reverse their idiocy

This central planning thing is nonsense
Nothing has changed since the Will Rodgers days
"I don't belong to an organized party, I'm a Democrat"
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January 31st, 2023 at 4:20:59 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: DRich
I don't know what death panels are so they must not be talking too much about it.


It was the anti-Obamacare scare tactic in 2008-2009 that Obamacare would have death panels to decide who was worthy of treatment (and hence who would die). "Death Panels" was a media term (very hyperbolic and not true).

Little do people understand, we already have "death panels", they are called private insurance authorizers....
January 31st, 2023 at 5:31:10 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Quote: Gandler
It was the anti-Obamacare scare tactic in 2008-2009 that Obamacare would have death panels to decide who was worthy of treatment (and hence who would die). "Death Panels" was a media term (very hyperbolic and not true).

Little do people understand, we already have "death panels", they are called private insurance authorizers....
isn't Canada well on the path to this, if not already there?

How about this,
Quote:
[A certain] “Mr. Foley was told by hospital staff that he had stayed at the hospital for too long and if he did not receive self-directed funding [from local agencies, covering home care], he should apply for assisted death as an option,” [a] lawsuit claims.
https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/canadian-man-assisted-suicide-being-pushed-on-me-by-hospital/
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February 1st, 2023 at 4:43:51 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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They disguise the "death panel" phrase.

It seemed to me, all of the sudden, "quality of life" was the phrase used by the medical profession instead.

If a person could not be made healthier and was getting in worse condition, a hospital group decides to conserve the resources available.

They then commit the person to a "hospice" classification.

It's a negative term similar to the word guillotine to represent death.

The way some justify sentencing others to death, is their quality of life selling points.

That way, the hospital group (and associated personnel like nurses, doctors, etc.) can sleep just a tad bit better if they're not already numb.

They claim being alive with pain is not as important as being alive without pain, even though pain medications are available.

That could be why we exited Afghanistan where they grow opium.

We might not have ever left Afghanistan if it weren't for the death panels.
February 1st, 2023 at 4:51:12 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: DoubleGold
They disguise the "death panel" phrase.

It seemed to me, all of the sudden, "quality of life" was the phrase used by the medical profession instead.

If a person could not be made healthier and was getting in worse condition, a hospital group decides to conserve the resources available.

They then commit the person to a "hospice" classification.

It's a negative term similar to the word guillotine to represent death.

The way some justify sentencing others to death, is their quality of life selling points.

That way, the hospital group (and associated personnel like nurses, doctors, etc.) can sleep just a tad bit better unless they're numb.

They claim being alive with pain is not as important as being alive without pain, even though pain medications are available.

That could be why we exited Afghanistan where they grow opium.

We might not have ever left Afghanistan if it weren't for the death panels.


A whole lotta Fox News- level conspiracy BS in this post. With no sources to back it up.

You know that old saying: “Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one!”
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February 1st, 2023 at 5:01:13 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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That's real life experience so no source needed.

Both of my parents died in my arms because of it.

Morphine is available but they like to limit it.