Ukraine conflict
March 15th, 2022 at 6:06:39 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4525 |
What a common sense and accurate post Ron. That pretty much guarantees it will be flamed by the usual suspects. "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
March 15th, 2022 at 6:18:49 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12540 | Tulsi is still going on Tucker’s White Power Hour? Why on earth would anyone listen to anything she has to say? She ran for the Democratic nomination for president and was laughed off the stage. Now she speaks to the racists at CPAC and goes on our country’s most popular white nationalist propaganda program. Clearly she just needs attention. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
March 15th, 2022 at 6:23:00 PM permalink | |
missedhervee Member since: Apr 23, 2021 Threads: 96 Posts: 3103 | Russian law maker demands USA return Alaska and part of California to Russia as "reparations." https://www.foxnews.com/us/russia-alaska-california-fort-reparations-sanctions LOL, good luck with that... |
March 15th, 2022 at 6:44:40 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Tucker Carlson is essentially a conspiracy theorist, he is a mainstream Alex Jones, saying that he committed treason (which is a loaded term) would be expecting him to have any other worldview. Tulsi Gabbard is another issue because she is a politician and until very recently a military member. So when she sides with the enemy it matters. Both have been anti-American recently. And, that is not partisan, I would character a large swath of the left the same. I don't know of anyone (who matters) who is saying they should be arrested for what they say (though with Tulsi its more questionable, not her being a politician, but having a security clearance and being in a leadership role in a special unit, you lose some free speech in such a role, which is why I suspect as of last year she got out, but that is an assumption....). I don't agree with the word treason as that has legal undertones. But, both have been anti-West recently, and people have every right to call them out on it. Tucker has been especially bad (again you expect it from him), essentially re-reading Russia propaganda (remember there is a leaked Kremlin memo that cites him as an important voice to have on American televisions, that is not coming from an ether, there is a tangible reason that Russia wants people who don't support Ukraine on television). I don't know which "former Senator accused" Tucker of treason or the context, but I agree its unfair. But, former Senators accusing people that they do not like of treason is also not unheard of... Again, the key word there is former. (I actually watched the interview with Tulsi and Tucker, and it went exactly as I thought it would). The bottom line is Russia is wrong and saying there is some biolab with a pathogen that is endangering people (its only a danger because Russia is invading) is just beyond silly. Should we not have biolabs in any country Russia may feel like invading at some point in history (which is most of Asia and Europe). So many people are bending over backwards to justify the Russian invasion that its just sad. Also, the fact that Tucker is allowed to speak on television shows there is no censorship or big bad machine. (If he lived in Russia and spoke about the Russian government that way he would be long gone). The fact that he is willing (and eager) to go on television each night and say such things shows he is in no true fear of his life. Having different opinions is fine, parroting false propaganda is not. Again not illegal (nor should it be), but expect backlash from other free speech. Just like he has a right to be racist, but somebody who is racist can expect backlash after a rant. Free speech cuts both ways. |
March 15th, 2022 at 6:49:41 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4256 |
Watch, tomorrow evening Tucker Carlson will be saying how we should just give up Alaska anyway and we should make repayments? Hey, he may be supportive of reparations for once..... Progress? And, its far from the most important point here, but how is something that Russia wanted to sell (and did sell), "seized"? Did 1860s America (on the brink of ruin from Civil War) really threaten the Russian Kingdom (at that time) so much? Please..... |
March 15th, 2022 at 7:07:42 PM permalink | |
RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2510 |
I have heard both Gabbard and Carlson say that Russia’s invasion is wrong. I did not mention censorship; do you think that is an issue? I am fine with people opposing their points of view; I don’t have an opinion other than throwing around words like “treason” is a simpleton’s way of not wanting to counter an argument with a more persuasive one. We have become a pile of disagreeable people instead of a group of people that disagree with each other. |
March 15th, 2022 at 7:19:41 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11808 |
There is no treason That's absurd, dumb and of all things, wrong We are not at war with Russia Tucker and Tulsi simply spread the same exact lies as the Russian propaganda machine. A lot of this has to do with the Fox propaganda machine making sure their viewers don't see Biden as the loyal opposition but instead paint him as the evil enemy. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
March 15th, 2022 at 7:32:29 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11808 |
I didn't hear that What I did hear is that Russian media loves Tucker Makes sense "Kremlin memos urged Russian media to use Tucker Carlson clips – report | Fox News | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/14/kremlin-memos-russian-media-tucker-carlson-fox-news-mother-jones Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
March 15th, 2022 at 7:33:31 PM permalink | |
kenarman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 14 Posts: 4525 |
Hey that is pretty good did Xi Jinping write it for you? "but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin |
March 15th, 2022 at 7:43:47 PM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11808 |
Huh Tucker did not commit treason. Just stupid. You disagree ???????????? Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |