Ukraine conflict

March 29th, 2022 at 5:58:12 PM permalink
rxwine
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March 29th, 2022 at 6:36:52 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Some teenager prattling on about her YouTube channel. Why did you post this.
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March 29th, 2022 at 7:02:25 PM permalink
rxwine
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Some teenager prattling on about her YouTube channel. Why did you post this.


It's more informative than all of your posts in this thread.
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March 29th, 2022 at 7:22:38 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's more informative than all of your posts in this thread.


Citizens and businesses are leaving Russia, that's her entire message. We've only known that for weeks. You found this informative? Do you get news about what's going on from anywhere? You just like it because she pushes her hair back with her hands a lot.
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March 29th, 2022 at 7:29:00 PM permalink
rxwine
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Citizens and businesses are leaving Russia, that's her entire message. We've only known that for weeks. You found this informative? Do you get news about what's going on from anywhere? You just like it because she pushes her hair back with her hands a lot.


She knows what's going on there, you don't.

And that's not her entire message.
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March 29th, 2022 at 7:33:30 PM permalink
Evenbob
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She knows what's going on there, you don't.


I certainly didn't hear anything new so apparently I do know what's going on there. The war's going to make Russia suck for years? No kidding, what a revelation. The Russians have censored social media and YouTube is probably next? I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.
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March 29th, 2022 at 8:29:04 PM permalink
rxwine
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That is where they have the advantage. Their country is already destroyed, civilians are evacuated (or in process to be), and men are at arms.

There is no more disruption that can be caused to Ukraine, there economy is for all intents and purposes already gone, they have one goal, and that is to fight. However, there is much disruption that we can inflict against Russia.

Russia wants peace now because their economy is bleeding, their losses are through the roof, their home population is discontent and suffering. Ukraine is in battle mode. Russia is in I can't believe this is still going on mode. Ukraine has the advantage, even if they lose another City, because every day that the battle goes on, the more damage is caused to Russia.

I have no problem with America subsidizing this (I mean we basically already subsidized their military before this conflict and nobody had an issue with it).

Think about it, the Russians have superior numbers, and on paper, superior equipment (if its not properly maintained or handled incompetently that is another issue, but they technically have the advantage), and yet they are 3X the casualties of Ukraine as far as soldiers. (Most Ukrainians who have died are actually civilians, the soldier to soldier ratio is heavily in favor of Ukraine several times over).

This shows that in close combat, the Ukrainian soldiers are far superior and have a huge advantage (And many of the soldiers on the front lines from Ukraine are not even "professional" soldiers, but Reservists or territorial defense, versus Russia where it is at least according to them all professional full-time soldiers). And, this is also factoring Russia is shelling into Ukraine (so a lot of their kills are indirect combat), Ukraine is not shelling into Russia. So all of these factors make their kill count that much more impressive. Russia has so many advantages, and they are still getting pummeled in direct combat to the point that it overshadows all of their other stats.

Really the only thing Russia has to be afraid of is Nuclear Weapons. But, this is stilly to be fearful. This war has demonstrated how weak their Army is, that at full force (and with an ally that shares the border on the victim country), they are still barely making progress.

So Ukraine needs to keep them draining people, so that sanctions keep increasing, which is an indirect way for Ukraine to cause damage to their civilian population and economy. You can sugar coat it, but Russia is in bad shape right now (both at home an in theatre). And, the longer that this last, the worst things will get for them, which is good for the world..... And, the more unhappy and chaotic the people at home in Russia get, also the better for the world.


While it's true the Ukrainians are putting up a much better fight with fewer resources, if the Russians revert to a defensive position and the Ukrainians offensive the Ukrainians lose the advantage of a siege defense. Instead of 7-10 Russians for every Ukrainian, you then need 7-10 Ukrainians for 1 Russian. If Russians maintain that defense position on territory near their border or the coastline, they then have resupply solved, and their ships can still bombard from sea. I believe even without missiles large ship artillery can fire 20 miles or so inland.

And if that slows the Ukrainians for long enough, I fear the calls to reach a settlement may pressure the Ukrainians to take loss of land.
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March 30th, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM permalink
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Some teenager prattling on about her YouTube channel. Why did you post this.


It's more informative than all of your posts in this thread.


*more informative than all of his posts ever.
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March 30th, 2022 at 4:52:12 AM permalink
terapined
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Some teenager prattling on about her YouTube channel. Why did you post this.


It's more informative than all of your posts in this thread.


*more informative than all of his posts ever.

No kidding
His go to is Scott Adams ROTFL
Too funny that he proud of that
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March 30th, 2022 at 9:28:11 AM permalink
Gandler
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/30/us-sends-100-killer-drones-called-switchblades-to-ukraine.html

100 single use drones (drones designed to be flown into a target and explode) have been shipped to Ukraine. While this is a great weapon that is almost futuristic (very small and portable, soldiers can run around with them in their rucksack and quickly send them up as needed). It also seems dangerous if they end up in the wrong hands.

The difference between these and Fighter Planes, any idiot can probably figure out a single use drone, which makes them more dangerous if they leak to militia groups, but very few people can effectively use a fighter plane (even if some group somehow got a hold of one).

I am not saying that giving them these is wrong, but it can backfire so easily compared to military vehicles that the U.S. is reluctant to give (which no civilian is going to be able to figure out how to operate, and even if they are, they are not going to have the ability to maintain and run the vehicle if they don't have a massive organization).

In the short term, they will be good for destroying Russian tanks. But, hopefully people in charge thought about long term possibilities and risks.