New high capacity airplanes

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. Many airlines make money on the hotel booking and rental car booking and not on the actual flight.

I remember the name of the airline, it was Direct Air and their hub and focus cities were:
Myrtle Beach (Myrtle Beach International Airport) Hub
Fort Myers/Punta Gorda (Charlotte County Airport) Focus City
West Palm Beach (Palm Beach International Airport) Focus City

Obviously they were primarily built around golf vacations.

I seem to recall some mouthings from the head of Ryan Air a decade ago or something about the data capture being more valuable than their actually flying the plane.

Returning to the original topic, it looks like American's configuration of 310 seats on the Boeing 777-300 is the maximum number of seats on any USA airline (once the Boeing 747's in the Delta and united fleet are retired).

The Boeing 777-300 is approved for a maximum of 550 passengers in a ultra high denisty 28" pitch configuration, so the USA airlines are choosing a large percentage of flat bed and business seats.

But large jets flown by foreign carriers are pushing up passenger numbers at JFK, LAX, and SFO in particular. All three of those airports are limited by geography and noise restrictions. DFW and Atlanta have multiple runways and are not as limited, but the big foreign jets are less likely to fly to these airports. LAX will probably pass ORD this year as the #2 airport in the USA.

Should LAX build a floating runway to land the widebodies? The water is so deep that it would preclude a subway in the ocean bottom, and would probably require a neutrally buoyant tunnel to connect to the terminals.

JFK could build another runway in the Jamaica Bay, but the noise will still be high,

This concept plane Airbus 880 is impressive considering that it looks like airbus is going to lose billions on the A380 super jumbo.

Delta is down to 6 routes on the B747, and United is at 11 routes. Delta should retire all their B747 in three years, United hasn't announced a time frame. But as the average age is 18 years old, it can't be too much longer.

Then the largest configuration run by a US airline will be 310 seats.

Is it more efficient to travel by a lesser plane and get to your destination without massive costs, delays and infrastructure usage.

Anyone calculate how long our runways are empty?

How many times had that AF 447 pilot flown without knowing to lower the nose during a stall? Ah,,,, how long was it between the passengers bellywhopping into the ocean and some one starting to notice that they were not about to land in Paris?

The KLM pilot was the best KLM had and he tried to take off without clearance TWICE on the same day?

Larger and larger? WHY?

Quote: Fleastiff

Larger and larger? WHY?

Delta had 33 B747's and is down to 13, United had 88 B747's and is down to 24, Japan Air Lines (JAL) had 114 B747's (largest fleet in the world) and is down to zero. No airlines in Japan or the USA has bought an Airbus 380.

Delta uses 13 B747's on 6 routes (one each direction per day) + 1 extra plane for maintenance rotation:
Tokyo to ATL, JFK and LAX | Detroit to Nagoya, Japan and Seoul, South Korea | New York to Tel Aviv, Israel

United uses 24 B747's on 11 routes (one each direction per day) + 2 extra planes for maintenance rotation:
Tokyo to ORD, HNL and SFO (twice)| Shanghai to ORD and SFO | Frankfurt to ORD and SFO |Beijing and Seoul to SFO

But when these 37 airframes are retired, that will be it for all US airlines for planes with configuration higher than 310 seats (AS OF TODAY).

When JAL flight #123 went down in 1985 with 520 dead and 4 survivors including the best known Japanese singer in the world, it was a national tragedy. The repair after a tail strike failed after 12000 times at air. The current 747's in the USA fleet fly an average of less than once per day. In the 1980's this plane flew an average of over 5 times per day (average 80 minutes per flight) and it was packed with economy seating. Because the tail was repaired incorrectly, the Japanese executive in charge of maintenance committed suicide. But the mistake was a subtle one. Given once a day flying the airframe it might take over 30 years, and the airframe could have been retired before the mistake was discovered.

Subtlety?

In a routine announcement, Airbus has announced that Turkish Aerospace Industries will make panels 18 and 19 for the A320 and A330 and other planes as designated.

In announcing the rudder panels by TAI is Airbus indicating anything about the neoWhatever? Is this a rubber stamp on the Turkish economy?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/25/us-airbus-suppliers-idUSKCN0RP1IW20150925

AIRBUS to ALL suppliers: cuts costs on A320 components by at least ten percent across the board to keep A320 competitive through the next decade.

Emirates has a new A380 with a capacity of 615 passengers.

Once it takes to the skies, this 615-seat aircraft will the most dense configuration of any Airbus A380. Second place will fall quite a bit back: Lufthansa’s 526-seat arrangement has 89 fewer seats than the new Emirates configuration. Meanwhile, Singapore Airlines’ four-class A380 – the least-dense A380 – has a whopping 236 fewer passengers. The A380 is certified to carry up to 853 passengers.

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Once it takes to the skies, this 615-seat aircraft will the most dense configuration of any Airbus A380.

Well to be honest, this is Emirates 67th plane and the first one with a two class high density configuration. Plus Singapore Airlines has 2 upper deck configuration and 2 lower deck configurations for a total of four possible overall configurations. You are comparing Emirates highest density configuration (probably only 2 planes) to Singapore Airs lowest density configuration (probably only 2 planes as well).

No one as of yet, has tried a single class configuration to load more than 800 seats in the jet. This super high dense configuration was supposed to be the main selling point of the airframe. It would save fuel, and reduce costs by flying ultra long ranges with one (albeit large) crew.

Emirates (except for Copenhagen configuration), Etihad, Korean Air, and some of the Singapore Airlines A380's are configured without any economy seats in the upper deck. While this decision produces a poor total count of seats, the feeling of exclusivity has made the airframe popular with these airlines.

This recent decision by Emirates to configure a plane with only two classes and fewer than 60 business class seats, may be a fortunate break for Airbus as some other airlines may have access to data, and consider using the airframe for their own two class configurations.