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Original Sin?
| August 8th, 2016 at 5:28:47 PM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Yep, all you have to do is believe in the impossible - then anything is possible. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| August 8th, 2016 at 5:47:55 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
As soon as you buy that just one of the impossible things Christians are selling is true, it opens the door to whopper after whopper that you also have to believe. If they can get you to believe one is true, the rest is easy. It starts with original sin, that's the biggest whopper of all. If you believe that, you'll buy into everything else they're pushing. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 8th, 2016 at 9:08:14 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
What is silly is you thinking that the life of Jesus is a fictional myth. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 8th, 2016 at 9:09:58 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Well one of the things we believe is in the soul and the supernatural. With your belief in reincarnation you are on your way.
Good, because Original Sin is one of the easiest things to see in the world and in our own lives. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 8th, 2016 at 10:12:33 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You were somewhere before you were born, you're a part of something bigger than yourself. That's as natural as can be. It has nothing to with as god and everything to do with the universe having been here forever.
Actually it's impossible to see unless you're taught to look for and accept it first. No native culture has come up with the concept on their own, why would they. Original sin and pretty much sin in general are only relevant to Judaism and its offshoots as they are based on the same mythology. Nobody see's it without being brainwashed into it first. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 8th, 2016 at 10:55:01 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Please explain to me how I have always been here and the universe has been here forever. That makes no sense is scientifically and logically impossible.
Why do you continue to say this when you are wrong. Every culture, including secular culture recognizes sin and our struggle as human beings to do right. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 9th, 2016 at 1:36:27 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You have always been here in one form or another. The universe is eternal, it's not finite. That should humble you and give you peace. Why won't you let it.
No other culture has come up with the theory of OS except those connected to the god of Abraham. Find one that has, I dare you. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 9th, 2016 at 9:03:54 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Firstly, because it doesn't make sense, is illogical, and impossible. Secondly, why doesn't the fact that the universe was created humble you and give you peace, it is no less big and fantastic if it is created.
The fact of human nature having so much potential for goodness but a propensity towards the temptation of greed, selfishness, and pride is something not only every culture and religion know, but every human that thinks about their nature knows as well. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 9th, 2016 at 12:46:27 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
You always act amazed when I say the universe has been here forever, like I thought it up. Hindus and Buddhists both say this, they think it makes perfect sense. "The Buddhists do not believe that the world (universe) was created, rather it has simply existed forever and continues to recreate itself. Buddhism teachings state that the world is in a constant state of Samsara, meaning the continued repetition of birth and death." 'The Hindu tradition perceives the existence of cyclical nature of the universe and everything within it. The cosmos follows one cycle within a framework of cycles. It represents only one turn in the perpetual "wheel of time", which revolves infinitely through successive cycles of creation and destruction. Within this cycle of creation and destruction of the universe, the soul (atman) also undergoes its own version of cycle called samsara, the cycle of rebirth in which individual souls are repeatedly reincarnated.' Hindus and Buddhists find no excitement that science is finally finding evidence that points to reincarnation being real. Who doesn't know that, they'll say. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 9th, 2016 at 7:16:12 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
They probably aren't very excited because it is far from an accepted science. They are also probably not that excited about science discovering the Universe is expanding and the Big Bang theory. I don't get why you can accept and quote religious ideas that the universe is eternal when scientific evidence and logic suggests otherwise. Why do you maintain this position? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |