Original Sin?

Quote: FrGamble

I don't get why you can accept and quote religious ideas that the universe is eternal when scientific evidence and logic suggests otherwise.

Do you even read and try to understand
positions other than your own? They
believe the universe is in a constant death
and birth cycle that goes on forever and
we are part of it. What science discovers
is irrelevant if that's the case, just another
unique universe doing it's random unique
thing. You are so hung up on your teeny
tiny part in all of this, and your extreme
importance, you can't see the nose on
your face. But it doesn't matter, you'll
eventually come back and try something
else sometime. Not your ego, the thing
that likes beers and a sausage sandwich,
the real you. Your eternal soul.

Quote: Evenbob

What science discovers
is irrelevant if that's the case, just another
unique universe doing it's random unique
thing.

I maintain that any religion that ignores scientific discover or calls it irrelevant is false.

Quote: FrGamble

I maintain that any religion that ignores scientific discover or calls it irrelevant is false.

How is it possible to have a false religion.
If just one person believes it, that means
it's true for them. Look at yourself, you
talk to god and Jesus every day and claim
they talk back. Of course they don't, but
you believe they do, so to you your religion
is true. Atheists don't think religions are
false, we think they are games people play
to while away their time. There is no god,
so it's your time to waste.

Quote: FrGamble

I maintain that any religion that ignores scientific discover or calls it irrelevant is false.

That covers all Western religions.

For those of you interested in the topic of the immaculate conception, it has come up at WoV again (click the link).

One question that come up is how did Mary conceive Jesus? One member claims Mary had intercourse with god. Is that the Catholic position. If not, how did it happen? Sorry if the topic is a bit graphic.

Quote: Wizard

For those of you interested in the topic of the immaculate conception, it has come up at WoV again (click the link).

One question that come up is how did Mary conceive Jesus? One member claims Mary had intercourse with god. Is that the Catholic position. If not, how did it happen? Sorry if the topic is a bit graphic.

OMG
Its in the hotblonde round 2 challenge thread
WTF
How does a weight loss challenge and betting thread turn into the immaculate conception discussion?
fascinating and funny

Quote: Wizard

For those of you interested in the topic of the immaculate conception, it has come up at WoV again (click the link).

One question that come up is how did Mary conceive Jesus? One member claims Mary had intercourse with god. Is that the Catholic position. If not, how did it happen? Sorry if the topic is a bit graphic.

Wizard, I thought your answer to why there was an Immaculate Conception was spot on.

The Catholic position is that the Holy Spirit did not have intercourse with Mary. It was a miracle and Mary is considered ever-virgin after the conception as before.

Quote: FrGamble

The Catholic position is that the Holy Spirit did not have intercourse with Mary. It was a miracle and Mary is considered ever-virgin after the conception as before.

It never happened, so any position other
than that is meaningless. Joseph had sex
with Mary and she had kids, nothing to
see here, move on..

I think Joseph would have told us such if that was true.

Quote: FrGamble

I think Joseph would have told us such if that was true.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE REALLY SAID!!!

Good grief, you'll never get it. You approach
the NT with the mind frame that it's all true.
You can't do that. It's all false until proven
by outside evidence. That's how reality works,
otherwise we'd be believing every urban legend
and BS story that came down the pike. Like they
did in the 1st and 2nd century.