Original Sin?

Quote: FrGamble

Catholic approved, huh? I didn't know there was such a thing..

When a site has a Catholic heading, or a
Catholic endorsement at the end, that's
Catholic approved. It's part of your very
narrow world view.

Quote: FrGamble

Now what it teaches is truth, but it claims no authority over the freedom of people who are not Catholic to think and live as they see fit.

So the unceasing push against abortion, contraception, and marriage equality, among many other things, is the church not trying to exert its authority on everyone.

I guess lying also failed to make it to the Top Ten.

Quote: Nareed

So the unceasing push against abortion, contraception, and marriage equality, among many other things, is the church not trying to exert its authority on everyone.

No more so than your unceasing push against human life in the womb, keeping carcinogens away from women, and the traditional definition of marriage, among other things.

Quote: FrGamble

No more so than your unceasing push against human life in the womb,

I don't favor abortion as a means of birth control, if that was your implication. It's a last resort when other options have failed or are not adequate.

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keeping carcinogens away from women,

You're off the deep end now?

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and the traditional definition of marriage,

"Tradition" is a poor excuse for oppression.

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among other things.

As a general rule, opposing faith-based diktats is the moral thing to do. That is, by blind chance alone, such opposition is more likely than not to be moral.

Quote: Nareed

I don't favor abortion as a means of birth control, if that was your implication. It's a last resort when other options have failed or are not adequate.

So an acceptable last resort is to kill an innocent human being in the womb? What were you saying about something being more likely moral, what?!?

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You're off the deep end now?

Yeah, we conveniently forget that the pill is listed next to asbestos and tobacco as cancer causing agents. I've always wondered why we forget this? It is because society hates women or just the convenience of filling them with dangerous levels of hormones is too hard to resist.

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"Tradition" is a poor excuse for oppression.

Yes, it is a good thing no one is being oppressed.

Quote: FrGamble

Yes, it is a good thing no one is being oppressed.

You can call yourself fallible and broken and whatever you want, but that's poor excuse for a mean spirit that sweeps oppression under the rug.

I didn't know condoms caused cancer.

Quote: Dalex64

I didn't know condoms caused cancer.

The effects of long-term use of the pill are mixed. It may offer protections and cause harm at the same time. It's a trade-off like everything else in life. But if it protected against everything and conferred a longer life, the church would still oppose it.

Quote: Dalex64

I didn't know condoms caused cancer.

They don't cause cancer but they lead to promiscuity and they don't protect against HPV, which causes cervical cancer and other problems. So they lead to cancer, infidelity, broken homes, broken hearts, and other diseases. They also aren't foolproof in preventing pregnancy.

Quote: Nareed

The effects of long-term use of the pill are mixed. It may offer protections and cause harm at the same time. It's a trade-off like everything else in life. But if it protected against everything and conferred a longer life, the church would still oppose it.

Oh come on! it's a trade off?!? Did you ever notice how the easiest form of birth control is the condom but instead we decide we will force women to trade-off and balance their health vs. protection? Or we stick some kind of artificial plastic device in her? This is just stupid. If you don't have a problem with contraception just wear a condom or get to know the woman long enough to understand her menstrual cycle. It is so grossly unfair and chauvinistic what we call birth-control. Of course a condom and NFP will not protect you from other sexually transmitted diseases or emotional and spiritual pain but Nareed and others don't seem to care about that.