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Original Sin?
| October 6th, 2016 at 12:12:40 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Here's the pope quote source. I don't bother because you'll just shoot it down as you're trained to do. But the pope really said it, like it or not. When did you turn into a more arrogant ass than you usually are, it's not a good look on you. https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/01/23/why-the-catholic-church-is-still-against-contraception.html If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| October 6th, 2016 at 4:45:35 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | So, is the church against antiperspirant? It prevents something normal and healthy (perspiring), and has a risk of causing cancer. It's purposes are for vanity and convenience. Antiperspirants and Breast Cancer Risk - American Cancer Society http://m.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk http://www.m.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/antiperspirant-facts-safety "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| October 6th, 2016 at 4:55:54 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
What is one-sided, or thrusting the responsibility onto women, about condoms and a vasectomy? Why recommend the pill? Again, it is highly effective, and convenient and easy to use. It also has health benefits, not just risks, so it isn't about just taking risks for the sole benefit of avoiding pregnancy. It isn't just about men, either. Women on the pill also do not want to "respect the monthly cycle" which is another silly reason to be opposed to contraception. There is also no reason not to use NFP if you want to. If you really didn't want to get pregnant, you could leave open the slim possibility of conception, and share the responsibility by using NFP, condoms, and the pill all at the same time. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| October 6th, 2016 at 6:47:12 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
You can be spared from the charge of indulging in verbal gymnastics, because such a contorted display it's way too ugly to be called "gymnastics." Seriously, calling NFP "better" or "effective" is like proclaiming the Sahara to be fertile or the Arctic to be warm. It's too nakedly Orwellian even for you. And this nonsense about it carrying no risks? That's your assumption that pregnancy isn't a risk.
And that's like asking "If you wanted to travel very far in a short time, why would you recommend an airplane?"
Come on. You know feminists love the pill, precisely because it allows women to control their fertility as they see fit, without spiritual enslavement to the church. That's what really bothers you and the so-called infallible cult leaders you follow. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| October 6th, 2016 at 7:59:12 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
That isn't a link to the pope quote source, but rather an effective opinion piece about an interpretation of what the Pope said. The author used just six words from the Pope and paraphrased the rest to his or her liking. Don't assume that I will just shoot it down and don't assume that I'm trained to do so. It is just good practice if you are going to say that the Pope said something to link to the actual statement. Sometimes, not always, there is context or something that you might not understand that can help explain what is really being said. Like it or not if we have the actual quote it becomes more clear what is really being said. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| October 6th, 2016 at 8:01:17 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
The Church is not against antiperspirant because as the links you provide make clear it does not really raise your risk of having cancer. However, becoming more and more popular are natural antiperspirants and deodorants that don't have the problematic chemicals and such. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| October 6th, 2016 at 8:07:58 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Really, you are the queen of hyperbole and exaggeration. It shows the weakness of your argument. How can something be that much better as you describe when it raises your chance for certain cancers and can cause depression? Having sex during times when the woman is naturally infertile is 100% effective.
Again just sad that you would close your mind and eyes to the dangers of the pill. An airplane is much safer.
When you sound like Evenbob it is so disgusting. I can only handle one crazy person telling me conspiracy theories about what my Church really thinks, feels, or is motivated by. Give me a break! “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| October 6th, 2016 at 8:13:54 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
if it is 100% effective then it does not leave open the possibility of conception. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| October 6th, 2016 at 8:23:11 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Thank you!
NFP raises the risk of ovarian and uterine cancer, and can cause pregnancy. You'd better have a point.
The reason why Catholic families tend to be so small, right? Oh, my bad. They're soooooooo not small, unless they resort to actual methods of contraception like the pill. But surely you know this.
I can't in good conscience do as you ask. After all, your church admits they are conspiring to foster belief in imaginary beings. But they do so only to foster obedience and tribute to the church. Oh, and did you forget we're at war? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| October 6th, 2016 at 11:52:17 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Shoot this down, from NPR: On his return trip from Asia, Pope Francis made strong statements supporting the church's ban on artificial means of birth control. He also said Catholics should practice "responsible parenthood" and don't have to breed "like rabbits." http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/01/20/378559550/pope-francis-says-catholics-dont-need-to-breed-like-rabbits If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |