Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

March 10th, 2021 at 2:14:52 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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Love what Lomborg has to say on Texas!

this is set to go at the right spot or you can go to 37 minutes in https://youtu.be/0Te5al2APrQ?t=2234

https://youtu.be/0Te5al2APrQ?t=2234

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March 11th, 2021 at 1:22:12 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Flashback 1995: New York Times failed 2020 prediction: Most East Coast Beaches ‘Gone in 25 years’

Yet the believers still believe whatever is put out there.
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March 11th, 2021 at 2:59:45 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: AZDuffman


Proving little. Most beach communities address beach erosion in various ways, and not just let it happen.
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March 11th, 2021 at 3:37:15 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
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Proving little. Most beach communities address beach erosion in various ways, and not just let it happen.


Proving that the fear monger predictions are Barbara Streisand.
The President is a fink.
March 11th, 2021 at 4:13:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman


Go back to the 80's and 90's
and there are dozens of whacko
predictions, none of which have
come true or even in the ballpark.
Remember the Bp oil spill and
they went crazy with dire
predictions? Turns out the ocean
knows how to deal with oil, it
eats it. Untold numbers of barrels
of oil leak from the ocean floor
daily, for millions of years. Just
to be eaten by the earths oceans.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
March 11th, 2021 at 5:10:39 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
Go back to the 80's and 90's
and there are dozens of whacko
predictions, none of which have
come true or even in the ballpark.
Remember the Bp oil spill and
they went crazy with dire
predictions? Turns out the ocean
knows how to deal with oil, it
eats it. Untold numbers of barrels
of oil leak from the ocean floor
daily, for millions of years. Just
to be eaten by the earths oceans.


Maybe you can get everyone to refund what BP paid out.

Quote:
The spill had a strong economic impact to BP [254] and also the Gulf Coast's economy sectors such as offshore drilling, fishing and tourism. Estimates of lost tourism dollars were projected to cost the Gulf coastal economy up to 22.7 billion through 2013. In addition, Louisiana reported that lost visitor spending through the end of 2010 totaled $32 million, and losses through 2013 were expected to total $153 million in this state alone.[255][256] The Gulf of Mexico commercial fishing industry was estimated to have lost $247 million as a result of postspill fisheries closures. One study projects that the overall impact of lost or degraded commercial, recreational, and mariculture fisheries in the Gulf could be $8.7 billion by 2020, with a potential loss of 22,000 jobs over the same time frame.[256][257] BP's expenditures on the spill included the cost of the spill response, containment, relief well drilling, grants to the Gulf states, claims paid, and federal costs, including fines and penalties.[258] Due to the loss of the market value, BP had dropped from the second to the fourth largest of the four major oil companies by 2013.[259] During the crisis, BP gas stations in the United States reported a sales drop of between 10 and 40% due to backlash against the company.[260]

Local officials in Louisiana expressed concern that the offshore drilling moratorium imposed in response to the spill would further harm the economies of coastal communities as the oil industry directly or indirectly employs about 318,000 Louisiana residents (17% of all jobs in the state).[261] NOAA had closed 86,985 square miles (225,290 km2), or approximately 36% of Federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico, for commercial fishing causing $2.5 billion cost for the fishing industry.[262][263][264] The U.S. Travel Association estimated that the economic impact of the oil spill on tourism across the Gulf Coast over a three-year period could exceed approximately $23 billion, in a region that supports over 400,000 travel industry jobs generating $34 billion in revenue annually.[265][266]
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March 12th, 2021 at 8:02:30 AM permalink
JimRockford
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The NYTarticle from 1995 is in anticipation of the IPCC assessment of that year and reports on the contents of some draft sections. The reporter also says:
Quote:
At the most likely rate of rise, some experts say, most of the beaches on the East Coast of the United States would be gone in 25 years.

The above quote has nothing to do with the report and is not attributed to any scientist. The IPCC assessment of 1995 predicts sea level rise of 13 to 95 cm by 2100 with the most likely rise of 50 cm. We still have 80 years to go. It makes no prediction of sea level rise in 2020.

Refuting a reporter hyperventilating about beach destruction 25 years ago is not the same as refuting climate science.
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
March 12th, 2021 at 8:24:07 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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I do wonder if much of the 'refuting' going on is refuting what some journalist projected, that wasn't what the scientists were saying at all.
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March 12th, 2021 at 8:50:55 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: odiousgambit
I do wonder if much of the 'refuting' going on is refuting what some journalist projected, that wasn't what the scientists were saying at all.


It’s a good point. By the time Moses got down from the mountain, one of the commandments was already being misreported by the local news.
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March 12th, 2021 at 8:51:01 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: JimRockford
The NYTarticle from 1995 is in anticipation of the IPCC assessment of that year and reports on the contents of some draft sections. The reporter also says:
Quote:
At the most likely rate of rise, some experts say, most of the beaches on the East Coast of the United States would be gone in 25 years.

The above quote has nothing to do with the report and is not attributed to any scientist. The IPCC assessment of 1995 predicts sea level rise of 13 to 95 cm by 2100 with the most likely rise of 50 cm. We still have 80 years to go. It makes no prediction of sea level rise in 2020.

Refuting a reporter hyperventilating about beach destruction 25 years ago is not the same as refuting climate science.


Except that we keep hearing the same hyperventilating from the climate change believers time and time again.
The President is a fink.