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August 16th, 2017 at 2:51:00 AM permalink
YeahBaby
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Kid Rock leading Senate race

GO KID ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO IT BABY!!!!!!!!

make lil man cry even more LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2017 at 4:57:32 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: terapined


White privilege
If Blacks did this to police, they would arrest everybody


Blacks would be lucky to be arrested in that situation. They'd most likely just get shot by the trigger-happy cops.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
August 16th, 2017 at 7:26:42 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Pacomartin
The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum established April 22, 1993 is the official memorial .
Where is the official memorial to the extermination of the Passenger Pigeon. That at least took place on American soil and involved Americans. Where is that memorial?
August 16th, 2017 at 7:26:42 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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Of course I've merely selected Passenger Pigeon at ransom but surely it is a more important event to memorialize than one that took place in war torn Europe and which did not involve one single solitary American citizen. The extermination of the passenger pigeon took place in America during peace time and involved solely American citizens. Where is that memorial?
August 16th, 2017 at 10:21:40 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: petroglyph
The uproar in Virginia was over protest protesters not wanting a statue of Robert E. Lee? It is our history, kicking and spitting on a statue doesn't change that.


Let's get two things straight:

1) The rally in Charlottesville was a "Unite the Right" affair, involving people such as:

Quote:
It invited people to join speakers like Mike Enoch, who hosts a podcast called “The Daily Shoah.” And Augustus Invictus, an alt-right figure who once said, “I have prophesied for years that I was born for a Great War; that if I did not witness the coming of the Second American Civil War I would begin it myself.” And Christopher Cantwell, who calls himself a “fascist,” along with Johnny Monoxide, who just labels himself “fashy.” And Michael Hill, an ex-professor who said, in 2015, “Never underestimate the perfidy of the organized Jew.” And Matt Heimbach, who says only 27,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust.


Source: http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/trumps-horrifying-take-three-on-charlottesville/

2) No one, and I mean no one, learns any history from statues. You learn history at history class at school, or by reading history books. Statues are meant to honor a person or persons, or even events. and this claim that monument to Confederate traitors to the USA represent some kind of essential part of history that must be preserved is bogus. Or would you maintain the Germans need to have statues of Hitler and Mengele?


Those who defend Nazis are no better than Nazis themselves.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER
August 16th, 2017 at 10:42:20 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Nareed
2) No one, and I mean no one, learns any history from statues.


Totally agree
Civil war history is not being erased
Best place to learn
Go to Gettysburg or Antietam battlefield
These grounds will remain sacred for centuries
See for yourself how General Lee totally blew it at Gettysburg
See for yourself the superior high ground defense that Lee foolishly attacked destroying his army
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
August 16th, 2017 at 11:04:31 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: terapined
Totally agree
Civil war history is not being erased


You are missing the point as usual.

Lets get rid of the Vietnam Memorial! We lost the war and you can learn about it somewhere else.

Lets tear down every MLK statue. You can learn about it somewhere else and isn't it just for blacks?

Lets tear down Auschwitz and put up apartments. Better use of the land and you can read about it in history books, no?

The tearing down statue thing is right out of "1984." Change history by making people forget about history.
The President is a fink.
August 16th, 2017 at 11:11:23 AM permalink
terapined
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Quote: AZDuffman
You are missing the point as usual.

Lets get rid of the Vietnam Memorial! We lost the war and you can learn about it somewhere else.

Lets tear down every MLK statue. You can learn about it somewhere else and isn't it just for blacks?

Lets tear down Auschwitz and put up apartments. Better use of the land and you can read about it in history books, no?

The tearing down statue thing is right out of "1984." Change history by making people forget about history.


Let the local govts decide
You want the statue in Charlottesville to stay up
Move to Charlottesville, register to vote, and work to elect council members that agree with you
Trump exercises power
Why cant a city council exercise power?
Its Democracy
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
August 16th, 2017 at 11:17:48 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: terapined
Let the local govts decide


Yes. if they want to put up statues to Benedict Arnold or Alger Hiss, they should do so. You wouldn't want people to forget either of them, would you?

Now, how about we agree that statues to Confederate soldiers and leaders can stay, as long as each one is labeled with "TRAITOR TO THE USA" in big, bold letters? If children are expected to learn history from statues, let them learn the true history.
Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER
August 16th, 2017 at 11:22:42 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: terapined
Let the local govts decide
You want the statue in Charlottesville to stay up
Move to Charlottesville, register to vote, and work to elect council members that agree with you
Trump exercises power
Why cant a city council exercise power?
Its Democracy


If you want democracy, put it to a vote. If you did, they would stay. Government is caving to liberal loons who want to live in their own little PC world.

They did not put it to a vote. They are taking them down under the cover of darkness. Right out of the totalitarian playbook.
The President is a fink.