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May 1st, 2019 at 12:07:00 PM permalink
petroglyph
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And here in America, forced, surreptitious sterilization of natives has been going on, not in early 1800's, but during our lifetimes, well into the 19 f@#$ing 90s.

PR calls it "a mistake". Those with an education call it "genocide".

Sorry, Terps. Natives getting s@#$ on is hardly news.
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May 1st, 2019 at 1:36:30 PM permalink
YeahBaby
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May 1st, 2019 at 1:37:27 PM permalink
YeahBaby
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they'll ignore this point too!!

May 1st, 2019 at 3:16:21 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Hmm, so what ARE the vaccination rates of people who might be migrants who also might be from Central America or some of the various states of Mexico?

https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-caravan-central-america-vaccination-rates

Odd, am I reading that right?
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May 2nd, 2019 at 6:53:04 AM permalink
SOOPOO
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Quote: Dalex64
Hmm, so what ARE the vaccination rates of people who might be migrants who also might be from Central America or some of the various states of Mexico?

https://www.cato.org/blog/migrant-caravan-central-america-vaccination-rates

Odd, am I reading that right?


Interesting! So it seems clear that we should be more vigilant at keeping out El Salvadoran and Guatamalan illegals than others from the region, as their vaccination rates are substantially lower than ours. Thanks.

So if the Mexican government is so good at vaccinating it's populace, why can't it provide a country where it's people don't feel the need to become illegal occupants of another country?
May 2nd, 2019 at 8:58:50 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: SOOPOO
Interesting! So it seems clear that we should be more vigilant at keeping out El Salvadoran and Guatamalan illegals than others from the region, as their vaccination rates are substantially lower than ours. Thanks.

So if the Mexican government is so good at vaccinating it's populace, why can't it provide a country where it's people don't feel the need to become illegal occupants of another country?


I was just pointing out the lack of validity of the question "If unvaccinated American kids aren't allowed in public schools, why would we import millions of unvaccinated migrants?"

There are a number of things wrong with that. Here are several:
who is or isn't allowed in public schools has nothing to do with migrants
we aren't importing migrants
the migrants that are coming in are just as vaccinated as we are, more or less
many public schools offer vaccination waivers
any unvaccinated migrants would be subject to the same policy
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May 2nd, 2019 at 9:28:36 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
I was just pointing out the lack of validity of the question "If unvaccinated American kids aren't allowed in public schools, why would we import millions of unvaccinated migrants?"

There are a number of things wrong with that. Here are several:
who is or isn't allowed in public schools has nothing to do with migrants
we aren't importing migrants
the migrants that are coming in are just as vaccinated as we are, more or less
many public schools offer vaccination waivers
any unvaccinated migrants would be subject to the same policy


So, are you suggesting we be allowed to instantly deport illegal migrants unless they can show vaccination?

Your logic seems to have a flaw. If for some reason unvaccinated kids are a danger to vaccinated kids in schools (they are not but lets put that aside) then why by and large do the same people who demand vaccinations at the same time want to throw the border open to hordes we cannot confirm have are not currently sick much less have been vaccinated in the first place?

It is not by chance that we have a flood of illegals at the border and at the same time have new measles outbreaks. Connect the dots.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 10:15:40 AM permalink
Dalex64
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So, are you suggesting we be allowed to instantly deport illegal migrants unless they can show vaccination?

I made no suggestions.

Quote:
Your logic seems to have a flaw. If for some reason unvaccinated kids are a danger to vaccinated kids in schools (they are not but lets put that aside) then why by and large do the same people who demand vaccinations at the same time want to throw the border open to hordes we cannot confirm have are not currently sick much less have been vaccinated in the first place?

I made no proposition, no argument, no logic: therefore there is no flaw in my logic.
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May 2nd, 2019 at 10:15:45 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
It is not by chance that we have a flood of illegals at the border and at the same time have new measles outbreaks. Connect the dots.

That is completely innacurate.

The measles outbreak is due to the anti-vax movement, a global rise in measles disease, and international air travelers bringing in the disease.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-record-measles-outbreak-fueled-by-anti-vaccination-propaganda
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/04/30/717473521/u-s-measles-outbreak-is-linked-to-global-surge-in-the-virus
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/health/measles-outbreak-record-us-bn/index.html
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/immigrants-measles/
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May 2nd, 2019 at 10:32:40 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Dalex64
That is completely innacurate.


'Completely inaccurate' should be certain members' middle name.
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