Should I smoke pot?

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5 votes (25%)
7 votes (35%)
2 votes (10%)
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August 5th, 2014 at 12:35:48 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: rxwine
If they want to make alcohol only legal if you don't get drunk, then fine. Otherwise, why bother to pick on pot?


I am not taking a position on pot in my post, just saying alcohol is not a valid comparison.
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August 5th, 2014 at 1:37:37 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: odiousgambit
Man, just read that stuff. You don't want to make it a poll, trust me.



what's that about?



That's the part I am sorry about. I regret whatever degree of this 'internet flaming' nonsense I ever get involved with, it doesn't reflect well on anyone and between the two of us, I feel like the greater offender this time. Nonetheless, I felt quite compelled to respond somehow. If you would like to reply again, go ahead and say whatever you like, I will let you have the last word.



I don't understand your response exactly however it seems to me you have responded with class and integrity and I assume you mean well.

Sometimes I amaze myself, it seems to make sense when I'm typing a post out and if I review it fresh it still make sense and then sometimes I read it later and I too have a wtf moment? It seems to me a gift that an author can convey their meaning so well. As far as I know we are good.

I have several of the symptoms but none of the reason. I regret that some of my responses are emotional and not as well thought out as they could have been.
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August 5th, 2014 at 1:56:30 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
Hemp is the same as cannabis sativa as the grass
in your front yard is the same as the wheat grown
in Kansas. They're both called grass and not the
same at all.



My front yard closer resembles Mt. Rushmore than alfalfa. [gravel but I get your point]

Your front yard however [assuming you have one] is as close to corn or bananas [or wheat] as hemp is to sativa or endica for that matter. They are all related to grass.

IMO, a hemp plant is a pot plant is a weed or grass or whatever. The only difference I think is the amount of thc in the plant. If hq plants were left alone in the wild they will revert to hemp. The male plants are eliminated for the thc cultivators and would serve as a high fibrous material as would the hq plants once the active parts are removed.
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August 5th, 2014 at 2:00:52 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph

IMO, a hemp plant is a pot plant . .


Except it's not a pot plant at all. You typed
that whole encyclopedia entry making the
case for pot plants being used for everything
under the sun, just like the pot heads used
to do in the 60's. Except it's an apples and
bananas comparison.
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August 5th, 2014 at 6:30:18 PM permalink
TheCesspit
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Hemp Plants for Rope or Pot are both Cannabis Satvia, the same species, just different cultivars. But like brocolli and cauliflower are both brassicas, so are the hemp plants cultivars a bit different in use and effect. I wouldn't grow hemp for smoking. Or pot to make your clothes out of.

Lawn Grass and Wheat are just the same family. Not the same species.
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August 7th, 2014 at 7:21:45 PM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: petroglyph
Quote: odiousgambit
what?
"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it." Poppies and opium are OK too then


Note that the Feds were ready to OK THC medical use in the form of pills, but nobody wanted it, the medical marijuana folks always insist it must be smoked. Every legalization has had a terrible track record of abuse [recreational use instead of medical for most users].

absolutely delusional drivel.

see other post for my opinion.
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sorry, petroglyph! I am not usually this severe. I am in favor of decriminalization, and I still say decriminalization is the main motive for recent voter actions.



OK, this is the part where I didn't want to regret posting.

#1- For starters I don't believe you are looking at this objectively. As far as Poppies/ Opium are concerned? Production by the way since we have occupied Afghanistan is up over 1000% so, there is that. I'm am very glad for opium as the derivative of that is not only heroin [evil/ and bad] but morphine. If you ever had surgery or serious pain you too would be glad for morphine. Without it we wouldn't be where we are today with modern medicine. You twist my meaning sir, I didn't mention or promote opium but I am somewhat familiar with the opium wars as regards Britain/ China. I think heroin is the destroyer of cultures and lives and is evil. As are other narcotics which marijuana isn't one of.

#2- "The feds were ready to ok thc" well they still haven't done that so I guess they weren't quite ready. Or were you talking about the synthetic marijuana pills that would be ok if big pharma could patent and manufacture and maybe donate to their pol of choice? Well maybe they were about to ok that marijuana. I think one variety is called marinol, which IIRC people said had a different effect. I don't know, never tried it. But from what I am reading many of the mmj users don't want to smoke it. Smoking isn't good for the lungs. I believe many are after a different ingredient in pot, namely cbd, it seems to be medicinal and has no stone effect at all. As far as abuse goes, what doesn't get abused? What? Come on man, tell me. I can't think of much that doesn't get abused can you? How about some of the popular "legal" meds like valium, or ritalin or alcohol or power or love or money or religion. What is so pure that it doesn't get abused? Will you say that odious doesn't/hasn't abused and then swear to be honest? I don't think so. I've seen where kids in the outback will gather anything in a can that washes up on the beach and huff it. Ditto with glue or gas or paint. I'd rather they have some weed IN MODERATION, do I need to underline that?

#3 Well that is my opinion. We obviously disagree. It would take you less than a minute to search uses for cannabis/hemp and hours and hours to read it all. I'm not going to go through the effort to make all the links clickable for you. To me your mind is made up and the reward to me is negligable, If I was able to inform or enlighten you there would be ten to take your place to refuse to educate themselves or learn to think for themselves independantly or critically. Are you aware that Henry Ford made a car using hemp based plastic? He also fueled it with cannabis oil. Again easy for you to look up if your interested. Are you not aware that hemp seeds are the highest concentration of oil of any seeds that can be made into fuel oil? That is part of my statement, use pot seeds instead of corn for the ethanol being used in our gas, seeing as how it is impossible to use sugar cane in the USA. Are you aware of hemp clothing? Much more durable than cotton, and pot is so much easier on the soil than cotton. You have got to be aware of hemp paper, no? Really? Do you see no value in not clear cutting forests of trees that take up to 100 years to grow for paper versus hemp which takes 3 months. That could do a whole lot toward conserving resources?

In my belief system which you find delusional, ALL wars are resource /banker wars. It always comes down to coveting what someone else has, whatever reason is given to drum up support from those headed to boot camp. We spent 3-4 trillion dollars making Iraq free of wmds. How's that working. FIve thousand american lives, ten's of thousands permanently wounded and hundreds of thousands of Iraq's destroyed. All to defend the status quo. Do you prefer the way it is to everybody just sitting down around a hookah and sharing a bowl? Are you following the "party" line on Syria? How about the Ukarine? Are you ready for WW3? Who is Ferdinand this time? Do you even have a clue why we are arming the moderate alqueda in Syria who then jump the border into Iraq and form the new caliphate? Think pipeline. The spice must flow, but who's spice is the question isnt' it. Again we are financing both sides, think it has anything to do with resources or am I delusional? Do you even know where the Arab spring started or why?

And lastly should I really believe you are sorry? Just because I base my opinions on a different set of facts I don't think makes me delusional, I just see things differently than most. I always have. I haven't smoked any dope lately, but if I wanted to I would. I haven't drank alcohol in years. If I was to do one or the other do you recommend alcohol? Do you really consider that safer than weed? I think you are much smarter than what you let on here. If not sir, reconsider who is delusional.


Great stuff, petro. Worth a full re-quote. Classic. :)
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August 7th, 2014 at 7:35:53 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: beachbumbabs


Great stuff, petro. Worth a full re-quote. Classic. :)


Classically wrong. He thought the hemp he smoked
was the same hemp Henry Ford made seats out of.
Wrong hemp. This is a falsehood the stoners latched
onto in the 60's, they thought the same thing. You
can't make rope and clothes out of the hemp you
smoke. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't
be any good.
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August 7th, 2014 at 10:14:04 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: Evenbob
Classically wrong. He thought the hemp he smoked
was the same hemp Henry Ford made seats out of.
Wrong hemp. This is a falsehood the stoners latched
onto in the 60's, they thought the same thing. You
can't make rope and clothes out of the hemp you
smoke. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't
be any good.



You guessing, surmising or "supposing" appears to be as close as you are going to get to the facts.
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August 7th, 2014 at 11:20:20 PM permalink
1nickelmiracle
Member since: Mar 5, 2013
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Quote: Evenbob
Classically wrong. He thought the hemp he smoked
was the same hemp Henry Ford made seats out of.
Wrong hemp. This is a falsehood the stoners latched
onto in the 60's, they thought the same thing. You
can't make rope and clothes out of the hemp you
smoke. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't
be any good.
Anyone who knows anything about pot knows this except for government. Wasn't it the case you could grow hemp, but the government wouldn't issue the permits required?
August 7th, 2014 at 11:59:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
You guessing, surmising or "supposing" appears to be as close as you are going to get to the facts.


No, I'm afraid you can't smoke the hemp
they make rope out of. You could, but
all you'd do is cough. No buzz.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.