Should I smoke pot?

Quote: rxwine

If they want to make alcohol only legal if you don't get drunk, then fine. Otherwise, why bother to pick on pot?

Quote: odiousgambit

Man, just read that stuff. You don't want to make it a poll, trust me.



what's that about?



That's the part I am sorry about. I regret whatever degree of this 'internet flaming' nonsense I ever get involved with, it doesn't reflect well on anyone and between the two of us, I feel like the greater offender this time. Nonetheless, I felt quite compelled to respond somehow. If you would like to reply again, go ahead and say whatever you like, I will let you have the last word.

Quote: Evenbob

Hemp is the same as cannabis sativa as the grass
in your front yard is the same as the wheat grown
in Kansas. They're both called grass and not the
same at all.

Quote: petroglyph

IMO, a hemp plant is a pot plant . .

Quote: petroglyph

Quote: odiousgambit

what?

1:29

"I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it." Poppies and opium are OK too then

Note that the Feds were ready to OK THC medical use in the form of pills, but nobody wanted it, the medical marijuana folks always insist it must be smoked. Every legalization has had a terrible track record of abuse [recreational use instead of medical for most users].

absolutely delusional drivel.

see other post for my opinion.
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sorry, petroglyph! I am not usually this severe. I am in favor of decriminalization, and I still say decriminalization is the main motive for recent voter actions.

OK, this is the part where I didn't want to regret posting.

#1- For starters I don't believe you are looking at this objectively. As far as Poppies/ Opium are concerned? Production by the way since we have occupied Afghanistan is up over 1000% so, there is that. I'm am very glad for opium as the derivative of that is not only heroin [evil/ and bad] but morphine. If you ever had surgery or serious pain you too would be glad for morphine. Without it we wouldn't be where we are today with modern medicine. You twist my meaning sir, I didn't mention or promote opium but I am somewhat familiar with the opium wars as regards Britain/ China. I think heroin is the destroyer of cultures and lives and is evil. As are other narcotics which marijuana isn't one of.

#2- "The feds were ready to ok thc" well they still haven't done that so I guess they weren't quite ready. Or were you talking about the synthetic marijuana pills that would be ok if big pharma could patent and manufacture and maybe donate to their pol of choice? Well maybe they were about to ok that marijuana. I think one variety is called marinol, which IIRC people said had a different effect. I don't know, never tried it. But from what I am reading many of the mmj users don't want to smoke it. Smoking isn't good for the lungs. I believe many are after a different ingredient in pot, namely cbd, it seems to be medicinal and has no stone effect at all. As far as abuse goes, what doesn't get abused? What? Come on man, tell me. I can't think of much that doesn't get abused can you? How about some of the popular "legal" meds like valium, or ritalin or alcohol or power or love or money or religion. What is so pure that it doesn't get abused? Will you say that odious doesn't/hasn't abused and then swear to be honest? I don't think so. I've seen where kids in the outback will gather anything in a can that washes up on the beach and huff it. Ditto with glue or gas or paint. I'd rather they have some weed IN MODERATION, do I need to underline that?

#3 Well that is my opinion. We obviously disagree. It would take you less than a minute to search uses for cannabis/hemp and hours and hours to read it all. I'm not going to go through the effort to make all the links clickable for you. To me your mind is made up and the reward to me is negligable, If I was able to inform or enlighten you there would be ten to take your place to refuse to educate themselves or learn to think for themselves independantly or critically. Are you aware that Henry Ford made a car using hemp based plastic? He also fueled it with cannabis oil. Again easy for you to look up if your interested. Are you not aware that hemp seeds are the highest concentration of oil of any seeds that can be made into fuel oil? That is part of my statement, use pot seeds instead of corn for the ethanol being used in our gas, seeing as how it is impossible to use sugar cane in the USA. Are you aware of hemp clothing? Much more durable than cotton, and pot is so much easier on the soil than cotton. You have got to be aware of hemp paper, no? Really? Do you see no value in not clear cutting forests of trees that take up to 100 years to grow for paper versus hemp which takes 3 months. That could do a whole lot toward conserving resources?

In my belief system which you find delusional, ALL wars are resource /banker wars. It always comes down to coveting what someone else has, whatever reason is given to drum up support from those headed to boot camp. We spent 3-4 trillion dollars making Iraq free of wmds. How's that working. FIve thousand american lives, ten's of thousands permanently wounded and hundreds of thousands of Iraq's destroyed. All to defend the status quo. Do you prefer the way it is to everybody just sitting down around a hookah and sharing a bowl? Are you following the "party" line on Syria? How about the Ukarine? Are you ready for WW3? Who is Ferdinand this time? Do you even have a clue why we are arming the moderate alqueda in Syria who then jump the border into Iraq and form the new caliphate? Think pipeline. The spice must flow, but who's spice is the question isnt' it. Again we are financing both sides, think it has anything to do with resources or am I delusional? Do you even know where the Arab spring started or why?

And lastly should I really believe you are sorry? Just because I base my opinions on a different set of facts I don't think makes me delusional, I just see things differently than most. I always have. I haven't smoked any dope lately, but if I wanted to I would. I haven't drank alcohol in years. If I was to do one or the other do you recommend alcohol? Do you really consider that safer than weed? I think you are much smarter than what you let on here. If not sir, reconsider who is delusional.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Great stuff, petro. Worth a full re-quote. Classic. :)

Quote: Evenbob

Classically wrong. He thought the hemp he smoked
was the same hemp Henry Ford made seats out of.
Wrong hemp. This is a falsehood the stoners latched
onto in the 60's, they thought the same thing. You
can't make rope and clothes out of the hemp you
smoke. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't
be any good.

Quote: Evenbob

Classically wrong. He thought the hemp he smoked
was the same hemp Henry Ford made seats out of.
Wrong hemp. This is a falsehood the stoners latched
onto in the 60's, they thought the same thing. You
can't make rope and clothes out of the hemp you
smoke. Well, I suppose you could, but it wouldn't
be any good.

Quote: petroglyph

You guessing, surmising or "supposing" appears to be as close as you are going to get to the facts.