Trump 2025

If you really want to bring on socialism and communism, eliminate minimum wage. You’re really going to motivate the people at the bottom.

Strikes, riots, organized labor, that’s all it will bring on. Same as before.

We’ve tried that already.

I don’t believe you can successfully eliminate it unless you come up with something to replace it in some different way.l

update: Oprah says she didn't get paid

the funny thing about interviewing with Oprah is the thinking was probably to shore up the vote with Black women, forgetting that 'the Oprah thing' was a phenomenon of White women expiating their guilt over the way they have treated Black women* ... and Harris already had the guilt-stricken White women vote locked up.

turned out there are still plenty of White women not much stricken after all

* my opinion

I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me]

Quote: GenoDRPh

Those of you who think that "market forces" should dictate wages, and employers will fail or be disadvantaged if they don't offer a high enough wage to attract workers, then why the opposition to the minimum wage?

You really need to take ECON101.

Because if EVERYBODY is paying the same wage then there is no advantage in that wage. The mw goes up and costs go up and guess what? YOU ARE STILL AT THE BOTTOM!

You make more money by building skills, not waiting for the Democrat Party to shove thru a minimum wage hike.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Those of you who think that "market forces" should dictate wages, and employers will fail or be disadvantaged if they don't offer a high enough wage to attract workers, then why the opposition to the minimum wage? Your argument is that employers will offer wages HIGHER than the min wage or will fail. The only reason there is opposition to a minimum wage is from those employers who want to pay their workers less than a minimum wage. Prove me wrong. State publicly that you support workers making as high a wage as possible.

First of all, your posting style is just plain annoying. The undertone is that we work for you, and are just waiting around for an assignment. Yes, there are some employers, for a scant number and type of jobs, that want to pay less than the minimum wage, especially in high minimum wage Democrat states or cities.

My first job…. Minimum wage was $2.65 an hour. I couldn’t find a job near where I worked. Commuted 1.5 hours each way to World Trade Center. Had there been no minimum wage law maybe I find a job for $2.50 near my apartment? The higher the minimum wage, the fewer burger flippers the restaurant tries to get away with.

OF COURSE I support worker’s trying to make as high a wage as possible. I think we all have been in that situation. Make yourself THAT valuable to your employer, or to potential future employers. Not have the government tell the employer ‘you must at be worth at least this much’.

I think the falsely high wages that are ‘minimum wage’ are a disincentive to those at the bottom. I’ve been a ‘burger flipper’. It is GOOD that I KNEW it was not a viable way to proceed, but was OK for the 17 year old kid.

This is amazing. Trump is hitting the ground running so fast that NASA just reported that we will have to adjust the clocks a second because his running is affecting the rotation of the planet!

You can wager that this new border tsar will actually go to the border not giggle like a schoolgirl about why he didn't. Musk looks like he will tear into something, hopefully the Department of Education, which needs to lose at lest 1/3 of its workforce. It has failed in its mission entirely. He talks with Bibi multiple times a day.

I won't call it a prediction but at least a hope. He gets Ukraine settled if not Day 1 then Week 1 and it becomes his "Iran Hostages" moment. Those old enough remember how that happened the first day Reagan was in office (even if Carter got it done) and simply slammed the door on the malaise feeling of the 1970s. We still had what is still the worst recession since WWII (sorry, it was worse than 2008) and Americans felt good to be American for the first time in almost 20 years.

So let the left win cry "FELON! JAN 6!" as the nation does not care. Let the lawfare battles continue, the will just make the liberals look even worse.

They sky above is clear again!

Quote: SOOPOO

First of all, your posting style is just plain annoying. The undertone is that we work for you, and are just waiting around for an assignment. Yes, there are some employers, for a scant number and type of jobs, that want to pay less than the minimum wage, especially in high minimum wage Democrat states or cities.

My first job…. Minimum wage was $2.65 an hour. I couldn’t find a job near where I worked. Commuted 1.5 hours each way to World Trade Center. Had there been no minimum wage law maybe I find a job for $2.50 near my apartment? The higher the minimum wage, the fewer burger flippers the restaurant tries to get away with.

OF COURSE I support worker’s trying to make as high a wage as possible. I think we all have been in that situation. Make yourself THAT valuable to your employer, or to potential future employers. Not have the government tell the employer ‘you must at be worth at least this much’.

I think the falsely high wages that are ‘minimum wage’ are a disincentive to those at the bottom. I’ve been a ‘burger flipper’. It is GOOD that I KNEW it was not a viable way to proceed, but was OK for the 17 year old kid.

You're thinking employers without a minimum wage would pay their employees enough to have time to upgrade skills, or pay for a doctor when they were sick, or have some money for some other unexpected need., Or be able to save any significant amount of money. That wasn't the way it worked. That's why people felt trapped without it.

Minimum wage laws actually help people get off the bottom. If they actually want to.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Those of you who think that "market forces" should dictate wages, and employers will fail or be disadvantaged if they don't offer a high enough wage to attract workers, then why the opposition to the minimum wage? Your argument is that employers will offer wages HIGHER than the min wage or will fail. The only reason there is opposition to a minimum wage is from those employers who want to pay their workers less than a minimum wage. Prove me wrong. State publicly that you support workers making as high a wage as possible.

I don't think many believe that companies will pay more than minimum wage for unskilled workers and they shouldn't. Motivate people to gain skills to make higher wages. People will pay good money for employees that outperform. I completely support workers making the highest wage that a free market economy will pay them and I also support paying low wages to those that are not performing at a level above other employees. I can't think of any people that I know that are in the top 80% of their field that make low wages. I have a friend that manages Taco Bell's that makes more money than I do because he is good at what he does. My closest friend is a carpenter in the union and has made six figures for many years. He has excelled at his job and now makes over $200k a year. Neither of those two are educated passed High School but they worked hard and learned skills while starting from the bottom. The Taco Bell friend started at Taco bell at age 17 and stuck with it and made something of himself and has been at Taco Bell for 40 years.

If you want to address the income disparity, don't do it through the minimum wage.

Do it through limiting the ratio of the top paying job to the lowest paying job in each firm.

So the top can only get larger if the bottom increases.

The ratio should be about 7:1.


There's plenty of money at the top to spread around.

Quote: rxwine

You're thinking employers without a minimum wage would pay their employees enough to have time to upgrade skills, or pay for a doctor when they were sick, or have some money for some other unexpected need., Or be able to save any significant amount of money. That wasn't the way it worked. That's why people felt trapped without it.

Minimum wage laws actually help people get off the bottom. If they actually want to.

First problem is you do not grasp that you get paid for your value not your needs.

Second problem is most people do upgrade their skills. A local casino here will pay $10/hr to learn to deal! QSRs will train you to be a manager. Trade unions have training for free. Get on at a good restaurant as a server and you can clear a couple hundred a night in tips. Then there is side hustling. That is endless.

If you wait for Kamala to give you a raise you will still be at the bottom. It will just be like a building where the bottom floor is labeled "3" instead of "1."

Quote: SOOPOO

First of all, your posting style is just plain annoying. The undertone is that we work for you, and are just waiting around for an assignment. Yes, there are some employers, for a scant number and type of jobs, that want to pay less than the minimum wage, especially in high minimum wage Democrat states or cities.

My first job…. Minimum wage was $2.65 an hour. I couldn’t find a job near where I worked. Commuted 1.5 hours each way to World Trade Center. Had there been no minimum wage law maybe I find a job for $2.50 near my apartment? The higher the minimum wage, the fewer burger flippers the restaurant tries to get away with.

OF COURSE I support worker’s trying to make as high a wage as possible. I think we all have been in that situation. Make yourself THAT valuable to your employer, or to potential future employers. Not have the government tell the employer ‘you must at be worth at least this much’.

I think the falsely high wages that are ‘minimum wage’ are a disincentive to those at the bottom. I’ve been a ‘burger flipper’. It is GOOD that I KNEW it was not a viable way to proceed, but was OK for the 17 year old kid.

My undertone is I support a minimum wage. If that annoys you, I've done my job. If that annoys you, I also don't care in the slightest.

Jobs that aren't worth at least this much aren't jobs that are worth having.

For those of you who support eliminating the minimum wage, what percentage of inflation is caused by these supposed artificially high wages? If we reduce the min wage by X cents, it would reduce inflation by Y percentage? Also, what percentage of US wealth is held by those who make min wage or close to it?