government shutdown

Quote: GenoDRPh

Too old, too sick, too poor? Too bad!

Humanity needs to once again embrace Natural Selection, the Survival of the Fittest.

Succeed or die.

Human life is most definitely NOT sacred: were that so politicians would not start and fight wars.

Quote: GenoDRPh

Then why did you ask the question, if you aren't going to trust the answer?



You care about the poor, you just don't want them to have affordable healthcare. In SooPoo's world only certain occupations and only those who make a certain amount or more should be able to get affordable healthcare.

Too old, too sick, too poor? Too bad!

I don’t trust the answer because those giving the answer have their own motives for giving the answer. And the truth IS NOT one of those motives!

Your post is just stupid!

Too old…. YOU GET MEDICARE
Too poor…. YOU GET MEDICAID
Too sick…. WtTF is that supposed to even mean in this context?

Healthcare s costly. I gave you the beginning of a list of jobs that you will get it from your employer. If you are a married couple, only ONE of you needs such a job. You don’t think you can qualify as a janitor for the Smithsonian? A mail sorter for the Post Office. A teachers aide for your elementary school. You can get a job that provides Health Insurance. Or you can expect the ‘gubmint’ to pay for it for you.

Democrat Rep. Bynum Blames Republican 'Poison Pill' in CR, Can't Name It—Votes for Shutdown Anyway (video)

Stupid democRAT

Hmmmmm

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Teamsters Union President Sean O’Brien and United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby called on Senate Democrats to end the government shutdown during a Thursday press conference at the White House.

You know that the Schumer shutdown is failing when even the Teamsters want it to end.

Quote: SOOPOO

I don’t trust the answer because those giving the answer have their own motives for giving the answer. And the truth IS NOT one of those motives!

Your post is just stupid!

Too old…. YOU GET MEDICARE
Too poor…. YOU GET MEDICAID
Too sick…. WtTF is that supposed to even mean in this context?

Healthcare s costly. I gave you the beginning of a list of jobs that you will get it from your employer. If you are a married couple, only ONE of you needs such a job. You don’t think you can qualify as a janitor for the Smithsonian? A mail sorter for the Post Office. A teachers aide for your elementary school. You can get a job that provides Health Insurance. Or you can expect the ‘gubmint’ to pay for it for you.

Health economists and public health specialists are as much an expert in their fields as you are in yours.

Funny how other industrialized nations provide HC to their residents, but we can't. And those people live longer and have better quality of lives than we do.

Quote: SOOPOO

Too sick…. WtTF is that supposed to even mean in this context?

Ben Askren is a former NCAA and World Champion freestyle wrestler. He is also a retired former champion MMA fighter. He is 41 years old and has money ion his pocket and has medical insurance. In June 2025 he was hospitalized with pneumonia due to staph infection. His disease progressed to the point where he needed a double lung transplant. His insuracne carrier refused to pay for the procedure, citing it's "astronomical cost".Jake Paul, Dana White and public fundraising paid most of the cost of the procedure.

This is a man who isn't old (41 years old), isn't poor (has money from his pro fighting days and has a profitable fighting academy business) AND has medical insurance and still was denied life saving procedure because of the feckless actions of his insurance carrier. Here was a man who his insurance company stated was too sick and too expensive to cover procedures.

What so you, Dr. SooPoo?

Quote: GenoDRPh

Ben Askren is a former NCAA and World Champion freestyle wrestler. He is also a retired former champion MMA fighter. He is 41 years old and has money ion his pocket and has medical insurance. In June 2025 he was hospitalized with pneumonia due to staph infection. His disease progressed to the point where he needed a double lung transplant. His insuracne carrier refused to pay for the procedure, citing it's "astronomical cost".Jake Paul, Dana White and public fundraising paid most of the cost of the procedure.

This is a man who isn't old (41 years old), isn't poor (has money from his pro fighting days and has a profitable fighting academy business) AND has medical insurance and still was denied life saving procedure because of the feckless actions of his insurance carrier. Here was a man who his insurance company stated was too sick and too expensive to cover procedures.

What so you, Dr. SooPoo?

I remember Askren. Sad

If your argument is for fully subsidized totally federal government paid for health care, your argument (potentially) makes sense.

If your argument is for the Obamacare subsidies being continued, your argument makes no sense. Askren’s insurance didn’t pay for his procedure, and wouldn’t have if it was paid for by an Obamacare subsidy or an employer or Askren himself. My insurance would pay for a lung transplant. Of course in stories like this who knows what ‘health insurance’ he really had?

Anyway, you picked lung transplants to make fun of our health care system? The USA is around 4% of the world’s population. Around 45% of the ENTIRE world’s lung transplants are done in the US. The chances of getting a needed lung transplant in one of your ‘nationalized health care’ countries is but a fraction of your chance here.

I (more than 20 years ago) did anesthesia for those cases. Most of the patients were already disabled and qualified for Medicare via disability, not age.

What is the survival rate for double lung transplant patients?

My wife's son in law was in his forties and developed interstitial lung disease, requiring transplants about ten or so years ago: he was healthy prior to that.

Yes, his insurance paid for the procecure.

But...he died within a year or so: his body rejected the new tissues.

Hopefully the survival rate has improved since then, but really it begs the old "cost / benefit" question.

I hope that the government is keeping track of all the Air Traffic Controllers and TSA agents who have been calling in sick during the Schumer Shutdown causing unnecessary disruption to air travel. I also hope that they are also fired as soon as it is possible to do so without causing any issues with air travel.

I also expect the Schumer shutdown to end this week, possible as early as Wednesday.

If tonight's election results are the way the public blames the Democrats for the shutdown, I'll take some more blaming.