Hey FrGamble!

Quote: FrGamble

is always objectively evil .

So when the Catholic church forcibly
converted Jews, you must consider
that 'objectively evil' also. That's far
worse than a rape, which is over
in a few minutes. Being forcibly
converted effects your life forever.

"No barbarity by the Church seemed too cruel to be used as a means of enforcing the conversion of the Jews."

This evil perpetrated by the Church
went on for hundreds and hundreds
of years. The Church itself was evil
personified to untold thousands and
thousands of Jews.

Quote: Evenbob

So when the Catholic church forcibly
converted Jews, you must consider
that 'objectively evil' also. That's far
worse than a rape, which is over
in a few minutes. Being forcibly
converted effects your life forever.

"No barbarity by the Church seemed too cruel to be used as a means of enforcing the conversion of the Jews."

This evil perpetrated by the Church
went of for hundreds and hundreds
of years. The Church itself was evil
personified to untold thousands and
thousands of Jews.

Not much different than today with the left supporting any means required to convert the right to their way of thinking.

Any forced conversion is always a moral evil as the Church has always and consistently taught.

Edit: your comments about rape are ignorant and despicable.

Quote: FrGamble

Any forced conversion is always a moral evil as the Church has always and consistently taught.

And the Church committed this evil
for hundreds of years. It's so well
documented it's undeniable. In
fact there is always modern Jews
in EU suing the Vatican to get their
property back from when it was
stolen from them by the Church
during the Inquisition.

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Edit: your comments about rape are ignorant and despicable.

What comments about rape.

I'm glad you recognize the evil of sin and those who go against the clear teaching of the Church and the harm it causes.

Quote: FrGamble

I'm glad you recognize the evil of sin and those who go against the clear teaching of the Church and the harm it causes.

There is no God to sin against, so there is no sin. But there is what could be perceived as evil actions as they take away a person's human rights. The church was guilty of this for hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of years. They thought they were working in God's best interest. What they were really doing is destroying people's lives. Even mother Teresa converted people in her clinics by tricking them into thinking she was doing something else. This seems to be the Catholic modus operandi.

Where do these human rights you speak of come from?

Quote: FrGamble

Where do these human rights you speak of come from?

From rational negotiation.

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Quote: FrGamble

Where do these human rights you speak of come from?

Human rights evolved, just like everything else evolves.
There are books written on the history of Human Rights.
They are The logical outcome of education. It's basically
you leave me alone to have my own opinion and lead my
own life within the law, and I'll do the same for you.