Refugees in Germany -- Crisis or Much Needed Labor?

No, I watched that whole thing.

Quote: boymimbo

No, I watched that whole thing.

Quebec sovereignty referendum
Monday, October 30th 1995


Results


Yes 2,308,360 49.42%
No 2,362,648 50.58%
Valid votes 4,671,008 98.18%
Invalid or blank votes 86,501 1.82%
Total votes 4,757,509 100.00%
Voter turnout 93.52

Quote: boymimbo

For Muslim law to take effect in a province, first there would need to be enough of a concentration of them to win a number of seats in a provincial election which would allow them to make provincial laws. Even if they would manage to win one riding, there would be enough opposition in the rest of the country to have an effect. The effect is more pronounced in federal politics where ridings are larger and the number of seats are larger. You would need to have 4-5 major cities to be completely Muslim to take over a nation. Canada has 10 Muslims in our house of commons.

Really?

Canada has a parliamentary system. If muslims got even 10% they could force a coalition. As part of the coalition they could easily demand autonomous areas. There is precedent for this in Eskimo and other tribal groups. This is the start of a fissure, and it would only grow from there.

Again, if faith in the system makes you feel better go with it. I do not trust systems so much.

Naw. Eskimo and other areas which are mostly isolated, where as Muslim areas are generally within urban areas. At 10% you are not going to force a coalition because no one would vote in the "Muslim" party. They would be part of a larger caucus (the Liberals, generally) who would never vote for such a thing.

We allow autonomy in those rural areas out of "white guilt" and not wanting to have our railroads and highways be blocked off, and having long standing indigenous law makes sense for them.

Some are talking anarchy and outright civil
war in Germany. What were these idiots
thinking.

Quote: boymimbo

Naw. Eskimo and other areas which are mostly isolated, where as Muslim areas are generally within urban areas. At 10% you are not going to force a coalition because no one would vote in the "Muslim" party. They would be part of a larger caucus (the Liberals, generally) who would never vote for such a thing.

We allow autonomy in those rural areas out of "white guilt" and not wanting to have our railroads and highways be blocked off, and having long standing indigenous law makes sense for them.

I've said my peace on the issue. All I ask is look at history and what a difference just 20 years makes.

Quote: Evenbob

Some are talking anarchy and outright civil
war in Germany. What were these idiots
thinking.

It will happen, this is a once in 500 years struggle. Western societies have been on top starting about 1500. For 50 years now the same societies have been in a period of self-decline. Violence is on the way.

It's hitting fan in Germany now, they
want Merkel out. And it's only gonna
get worse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3308583/Flashpoint-Berlin-anti-immigration-protesters-clash-police-call-traitor-people-Angela-Merkel-s-resignation.html

Quote: Evenbob

It's hitting fan in Germany now, they
want Merkel out. And it's only gonna
get worse.

5000 "anti-immigration" protesters,
right-wing populist AFD polling unchanged at 8%,
violence came from idiot counter-demonstrators.
If there were an election today, Merkel and the current government would win by a large margin.

http://www.infratest-dimap.de/umfragen-analysen/bundesweit/sonntagsfrage/

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Yup, Germany is loving them some wonderful
invaders. Can't you just feel the love..

"Critics are warning that German taxpayers will end up paying billions of euros to provide healthcare for a never-ending wave of asylum seekers. This is in addition to the billions of euros already being spent to provide newcomers with food, clothing and shelter.

In addition to the massive economic and social costs, as well as the burden of increased crime, including a rape epidemic, Germans are now facing the risk of being exposed to exotic diseases — and tuberculosis.

German hospitals are increasing security to protect doctors and nurses from violent attacks by migrants who are unhappy with the medical treatment they are receiving.

Berlin has announced hundreds of thousands of Syrians entering Germany will not be granted asylum or refugee status in a surprise U-turn from Angela Merkel's "open-door policy" on refugees."
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6838/germany-migration-health-crisis

Quote: Evenbob

Yup, Germany is loving them some wonderful
invaders. Can't you just feel the love..

"Critics are warning that German taxpayers will end up paying billions of euros to provide healthcare for a never-ending wave of asylum seekers. This is in addition to the billions of euros already being spent to provide newcomers with food, clothing and shelter.

In addition to the massive economic and social costs, as well as the burden of increased crime, including a rape epidemic, Germans are now facing the risk of being exposed to exotic diseases — and tuberculosis.


Berlin has announced hundreds of thousands of Syrians entering Germany will not be granted asylum or refugee status in a surprise U-turn from Angela Merkel's "open-door policy" on refugees."
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6838/germany-migration-health-crisis

Wow, that source you got there, the gatestoneinstitute, truly have no shame or feel any obligation towards their readers. They cite German articles hoping nobody can read them, because what they claim just ain't in there. Just one example:

Quote: Evenbob

German hospitals are increasing security to protect doctors and nurses from violent attacks by migrants who are unhappy with the medical treatment they are receiving.

The article they cite does not mention refugees at all, it is about violence in hospitals and the underlying causes. It cites research from 2014, well before the massive refugee influx. This can't be an innocent mistake, this was done intentionally.

Quote: Evenbob

Berlin has announced hundreds of thousands of Syrians entering Germany will not be granted asylum or refugee status in a surprise U-turn from Angela Merkel's "open-door policy" on refugees."

Hmm, not even your source seems to claim that, and it is total BS. Merkel couldn't do that if she wanted to, rule-of-law, human rights and all of those other socialist shenanigans here in Germany.

The gatestoneinstitute disgusts me. They purposfully try to manipulate their readers, while trying to maintain the guise of sourced and reasearched information. Pathetic.

oh and Wikipedia says:

Quote: Wikipedia

The Institute for Policy Studies[20] , The Nation,[8] the Council on American-Islamic Relations [21] and the Center for American Progress[citation needed] have categorized Nina Rosenwald and the Gatestone Institute as anti-Muslim.

From what I have seen, that seems about right to me.