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The "problem" of evil
| August 14th, 2016 at 10:02:11 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
You continue to think that Christianity is about the Christian him or herself. It is about recognizing that everyone, every human life is precious and of inestimable value. It is not just me, or you, but all of us who are very special and dear to the Good Lord. Please tell me why this is egoism or narcissism?
Why should we do any of the things you mentioned above. Why be courteous or be the best you can be. If there is no question and no answer to who we are as human beings then what makes us so special? Wouldn't it make sense based on your anthropology, which as best as I can tell is to just consider ourselves another animal no better than a cockroach, to live based on survival of the fittest? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 14th, 2016 at 10:19:52 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
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| August 14th, 2016 at 10:30:13 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18810 | A 6 year old could probably understand the injustice of the original sin claim. FrGamble can't and won't. It's pretty simple, god punished generations of humans for a decision by the original human couple he manufactured out of dirt and a rib. As far as I can tell, all of god's mighty omniscience and power used to lay a trap, which god already knew about. I wouldn't expect the Pope to come up with a good reason for such a ridiculous punishment because there isn't any. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| August 14th, 2016 at 10:49:58 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
It's just a simple teaching myth, meant to instruct primitive uneducated people, not to be taken as a real story. When FrG tries to explain myths like they really happened, he will always get into big trouble because they make no logical sense. Myths by their nature defy logic. Look at the Jesus myth. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 14th, 2016 at 11:09:43 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18810 |
Myth or not the lesson it teaches is fundamental to the Catholics idea of original sin, that's why it's important. And it's so flawed that it's an insult to intelligence even as a lesson. There are myths which can teach useful simple lessons. The boy who cried wolf, for instance.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| August 14th, 2016 at 11:58:51 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
I agree, that's why the whole concept of original sin is so preposterous. To build a whole religion around it is ridiculous. It's not in the Bible, it was developed in the 2nd century. It's basically Paul's idea (big surprise). "Paul believed that Adam's transgression in a mysterious way affected the nature of the human race. The primeval sin, a Pauline creation with no biblical or post-biblical Jewish precedent, was irreparable by ordinary human effort." Paul invented modern Christianity. This was the crux of it, he invented something for us that only Jesus could save us from. This is how twisted and sick this gets: "All of humanity was really present in Adam when he sinned, and therefore all have sinned. Original sin, according to Augustine, consists of the guilt of Adam which all humans inherit. As sinners, humans are utterly depraved in nature, lack the freedom to do good, and cannot respond to the will of God without divine grace." All of this was made up after Jesus died. It's utter nonsense and dangerous psycho-babble. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 15th, 2016 at 5:16:16 AM permalink | |
| Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
God knew what would happen, had the power to prevent it at no consequence to us, and chose not do so. It is perfectly unjust. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
| August 15th, 2016 at 6:47:08 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Obviously Jehovah has self-esteem issues. How else would you explain an omnipotent entity who out of all time and all places, has nothing better to do but watch whether people masturbate? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 15th, 2016 at 8:55:41 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
So your gods won't comfort you, they won't help you, and they'll stand passively by in the midst of atrocities no matter how awful.. In short, they'll act as though they don't exist. That's fitting, because they don't really exist. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| August 15th, 2016 at 10:42:18 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I think a six year old would understand that if you do something wrong.
You continue to think that setting up consequences for wrong or evil actions is laying a trap of some kind. You think God's punishment for our sins is unjust for some reason. Even in our imperfect judicial system we recognize that there needs to be consequences for your actions. Do you think that God should have given us true freedom to act as we chose and made it so when we chose to do wrong we are still rewarded for such actions? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |