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November 26th, 2021 at 11:49:47 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Maybe not related to this case, but I wonder how being in your own home, drunk on your ass, affects the right of self defense since you could perceive a threat differently while intoxicated. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
November 26th, 2021 at 12:26:27 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Lots of people who have accidents don't even know they had an accident. We don't know if she was fleeing or not. For all we know she thinks this guy was following her so she comes outside of her house with a gun and he shoots her. It's like he went there looking for trouble because he carries a gun. He was obviously riding the motorcycle that was in the accident so how much of an accident could it have been. This whole thing stinks and he's not going to get off with a defending himself defense. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 26th, 2021 at 2:41:45 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 |
Intoxication defense? (If that exists in Florida) Even so going and getting a gun and then walking back onto the street probably destroys any chance of this....
I feel like you have a negative view of motorcycle riders. The article even mentioned several witnesses were attempting to follow her. It sounds like he just got there first (probably because he was on a motorcycle and that makes it way easier to catch up to somebody). You keep wording your posts likes he is a Wyatt Earp maverick for doing something pretty routine. In any case I don't buy that. She was too aloof to know that she had an accident (or multiple by the sounds of it), but she was aware enough to see the same vehicle following her for a few minutes? No, she would have stayed inside and called 911 if that was the case. My suspicion is she did not want the cops there, and she was trying to intimidate the witness into telling the cops to not show up. "The motorcyclist and other witnesses followed the woman home while contacting authorities. " That does not sound like stalker behavior to me.... |
November 26th, 2021 at 2:51:45 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
I have a Harley Davidson Road King, it's in the barn as I write this. My point is it doesn't take much to damage a motorcycle with a car or truck so that you cannot ride it. The damage done by the driver had to be minimal, like maybe she bumped into his fender when she was backing up. Because the bike was later running and he rode it to follow her. She might very well have not even been aware that she ran into it. In any event, the police will tell you do not follow a car that has left the scene of an accident. Get the license number and call the police. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 26th, 2021 at 3:02:52 PM permalink | |
Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 |
Well in most of these cases, the 911 calls eventually get released, so we shall see what they told him I suppose. Whatever the case is, it does not justify coming at him with a gun, especially if he was keeping his distance and just sitting on the street in front of the house waiting for police. |
November 26th, 2021 at 4:48:03 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18633 |
Let's say, the motorcyclist didn't have a gun on him. So, then, do you really believe she was planning to shoot a guy sitting on his motorcycle in front of her house because he refused to move? Even people who don't know much about law, generally know you can't shoot someone for refusing to move. One has to believe this library assistant 5 months pregnant is going to shoot a guy sitting on a motorcycle who one supposes is making no aggressive actions towards her. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
November 26th, 2021 at 5:35:29 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | Just a whole lot of stupid here. Stupid of the woman if she left the scene of an accident. Really stupid for the guy on the motorcycle to follow her home. Really really stupid of her to come outside with a gun. And really really really stupid of the guy on the motorcycle to shoot her. She was punished for her stupidity and now he has to be punished for his. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
November 26th, 2021 at 6:31:12 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12422 | Isn’t this the America the righties want? Everyone is armed, and the “good guy with the gun” is whichever one who survives the duel. “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
November 27th, 2021 at 4:11:27 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | Is there any video on this? It almost sounds like EB is suggesting that it’s no longer self-defense because he followed her home. At a minimum, I’d think it would be relevant whether he was on her actual property or public property. I guess she didn’t learn her lesson because she’s too busy being dead, but it seems like the lesson here is not to point a gun at someone unless you plan to use it-and quickly. Granted, she was probably just trying to intimidate him, but he can’t be 100% sure of that. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
November 27th, 2021 at 4:16:50 AM permalink | |
DRich Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 51 Posts: 4944 |
The property question will probably decide the whole case. At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent. |