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Quote: DRich

You people all place way too high a value on human life. Yes, 17 children were murdered heinously in florida but there were around 11,000 babies born on that same day in the U.S. In 2016 about 18,000 murders occurred in the U.S. but there were 4,000,000 births.

My point is that we are doing a pretty good job replacing the killed.

Agreed. We live too long. There was a Star Trek episode where once you hit a certain age, you reported to a death chamber. I actually like the idea of having a defined point of life to live. Once you hit a certain age (75, say), that's it: the cyanide capsule buried deep in your body gets released, and you're dead. Set the retirement pension age to the same and get rid of social security and medicare taxes.

Apples and oranges.

Quote: AZDuffman

A high school student is, wait for it, almost 200 times more likely to commit suicide than to die of a shooting at a school! Yet we are hearing how we need to ban guns and have armed guards at our schools. And these shooters tend to be committing suicide by cop (this latest one failed there.) We are probably better at looking how the schools are driving our kids to this behavior than grabbing guns.

Nobody is putting roadblocks to trying to prevent young people from suicide. If you think stopping someone from killing themselves is easy, well, first you have to know it's going to happen.

Also, as to comparison, the being shot by someone is not a choice. This usually makes a significant difference to most people.

Quote: rxwine

Nobody is putting roadblocks to trying to prevent young people from suicide. If you think stopping someone from killing themselves is easy, well, first you have to know it's going to happen.



Also, as to comparison, the being shot by someone is not a choice. This usually makes a significant difference to most people.

Plus it is easier to scream you want guns banned than tackle a larger and real problem.

Quote: AZ

A high school student is, wait for it, almost 200 times more likely to commit suicide than to die of a shooting at a school! Yet we are hearing how we need to ban guns and have armed guards at our schools. And these shooters tend to be committing suicide by cop (this latest one failed there.) We are probably better at looking how the schools are driving our kids to this behavior than grabbing guns..

Really? How many people decided to die at a shooting at a school? What is the statistic for the 6 and 7 year olds at Sandy Hook? Come on, AZ, give it to me.

166 people in the United States have died of terrorist attacks since 9/11/2011.

An American is, wait for it, almost 7 times more likely to get killed by lightning strikes than to die of a terrorist attack! Yet we are hearing how we need to ban Muslims, take off our shoes and jackets and not carry liquids at airports, have our privacy rights taken away. And these terrorists are not even from these countries and carry out their attacks by guns or by vehicles. We are probably better at looking at how lightning is killing people than preventing terrorism.

I say enact laws that ban all outdoor activity on any day when there is a higher than 10% probability of thunderstorms.

Plus it is easier to scream ban Muslims than to tackle a bigger and real problem: lightning.

Apples and oranges.

Quote: AZDuffman

Plus it is easier to scream you want guns banned than tackle a larger and real problem.

That's really it. Very easy to jump on
the 'ban all guns' bandwagon, knowing
full well it will never happen. Coming
up with real solutions, like guarding
schools full time, that takes actual
effort.

And now there's this:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/parkland-shooting-survivors-speak-out-on-gun-control-and-some-on-the-right-see-a-conspiracy/

Quote:

In these baseless accounts, which by Tuesday had spread rapidly on social media, the students are described as “crisis actors,” who travel to the sites of shootings to instigate fury against guns. Or they are called F.B.I. plants, defending the bureau for its failure to catch the shooter. They have been portrayed as puppets being coached and manipulated by the Democratic Party, gun control activists, the so-called antifa movement and the left-wing billionaire George Soros.

Since so many here are all too easily offended by the pointing out of the self-evident, I'll merely say: I'm sorry to see a country that was built on, and grew prosperous with, democracy so intent on killing democracy within its own borders.

Quote: Evenbob

That's really it. Very easy to jump on
the 'ban all guns' bandwagon, knowing
full well it will never happen. Coming
up with real solutions, like guarding
schools full time, that takes actual
effort.

What would take real effort is the change in attitude and behavior that is required in society as a whole. We need respect, hope, and love desperately.

Quote: FrGamble

We need respect, hope, and love desperately.

Wow, your Church has so little
understanding of human nature
that it's mind boggling.

Quote: boymimbo

Plus it is easier to scream ban Muslims than to tackle a bigger and real problem: lightning.

Lightning? A water park in Florida refuses to order people out of the pool and actually stops customers from going around warning others since people have different rules of thumb for distance of strikes or thunder clouds.

Quote: boymimbo

Really? How many people decided to die at a shooting at a school? What is the statistic for the 6 and 7 year olds at Sandy Hook? Come on, AZ, give it to me.

166 people in the United States have died of terrorist attacks since 9/11/2011.

An American is, wait for it, almost 7 times more likely to get killed by lightning strikes than to die of a terrorist attack! Yet we are hearing how we need to ban Muslims, take off our shoes and jackets and not carry liquids at airports, have our privacy rights taken away. And these terrorists are not even from these countries and carry out their attacks by guns or by vehicles. We are probably better at looking at how lightning is killing people than preventing terrorism.

I say enact laws that ban all outdoor activity on any day when there is a higher than 10% probability of thunderstorms.

Plus it is easier to scream ban Muslims than to tackle a bigger and real problem: lightning.

Apples and oranges.

And Homeland Security, lost productivity, and all the other security measures enacted since 9/11 have only cost 100's of billions of dollars. Such a wise investment.