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I read some books on LBJ. He was a loud
mouthed, crude, bigoted, rich Texas rancher.
His ego was gigantic, but he could still
reign it in to get along with the other side
of the aisle. Unlike Obama.

LBJ was a bully. He did not need to reign in votes as he had supermajorities from the time he was sworn in to the end of his presidency. Congress and Senates were different beasts in the 60s with little in the way of lobbyists and a great deal in the way of independent thinking. LBJ had to cut deals to get Medicare / Medicaid passed just as Obama did to get Health Care reform passed.

LBJ said, "“Smile and shake hands and thank everybody,” Johnson instructed. “Then just cut their peter off and put it in your pocket.”

But to say that the Washington of 50 years ago is akin to the Washington of today is ludicrous.

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just as Obama did to get Health Care reform passed.
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HUH!? Not one republican in the house or senate voted
for ObummerCare. Yeah, that's reaching across the aisle..

"In December 2009, the U.S. Senate voted 60 to 39 for Obamacare. The Washington Post reported “The Senate bill passed without a single GOP vote. In March 2010, the U.S. House voted 219 to 212 for Obamacare. 34 House Democrats and all of the House Republicans voted against Obamacare."

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LBJ was a bully. He did not need to reign in votes as he had supermajorities from the time he was sworn in to the end of his presidency. Congress and Senates were different beasts in the 60s with little in the way of lobbyists and a great deal in the way of independent thinking. LBJ had to cut deals to get Medicare / Medicaid passed just as Obama did to get Health Care reform passed.

So, did he have supermajorities or did he have to cut deals? And you are crazy to think that it was some era of "free thinking." Party loyalty mattered just as much then if not more. Don't back LBJ and the unions don't work for you, don't work the ground game.

Although as stated before, the GOP came to the aid of LBJ. His own party filibustered a bill he supported, that has not happened since.

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But to say that the Washington of 50 years ago is akin to the Washington of today is ludicrous.

To deny it is to deny reality.

Right. To my point. LBJ could not count on party lines to get bills passed despite the supermajority. That's because congressman and senators voted with their conscious and their constitutent's wishes back then, not on what their lobbyists and superpacs think. He had a supermajority AND he had to cut deals. But in his last two years, just like Bush and Obama, people got tired of his bullying and he was not able to get things passed.

When elected officials have zero respect for the voters, the citizens, something is wrong. This isn't an ideal being reached, but perversion of America, and nothing to be proud of or make excuses for. It means we have sprung a leak which has grown out of control. Problem also some who recognize the problem, try fixing it by making it worse.

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When elected officials have zero respect for the voters, the citizens, something is wrong. This isn't an ideal being reached, but perversion of America, and nothing to be proud of or make excuses for. It means we have sprung a leak which has grown out of control. Problem also some who recognize the problem, try fixing it by making it worse.

Should we still "cherish" the time? lol...

Burger King set to move HQ to Canada

Good going, Obama! Bring the illegals in, and force good companies out!! *facepalm*

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Burger King set to move HQ to Canada

Good going, Obama! Bring the illegals in, and force good companies out!! *facepalm*

Actually at Burger King now to celebrate. Teach the looters a lesson.

Who is john Galt?

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Burger King set to move HQ to Canada

Good going, Obama! Bring the illegals in, and force good companies out!! *facepalm*

Crummy product, crummy food.
Good riddance.