Hey FrGamble!
October 1st, 2015 at 10:10:32 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
This is why we can't have nice things. This is also why people who are bigoted and prejudiced towards the Church shouldn't try interpreting Scripture. Wizard, I do like your quote and it is valid. Ultimately the Lord is not after our minds but our hearts. He wants us to trust in Him and love Him with all our heart, not just believe in Him with our brains. However, using our brains is the first step. Maybe that is why in the chapter before the one you quote Scripture says this: "Yes, if you call to intelligence, and to understanding raise your voice; If you seek her like silver, and like hidden treasures search her out: Then will you understand the fear of the LORD: the knowledge of God you will find; For the LORD gives wisdom, from his mouth come knowledge and understanding." --Proverbs 2:4-6 “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
October 1st, 2015 at 10:58:05 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
It's the circular thingie again. Seek wisdom, find it here, shut up and obey it. All seeking in the Bible leads you back to the Bible as the only answer. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 2nd, 2015 at 10:49:10 AM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 |
No, you haven't shown this in anyway that's reasonable or stands to close judgement. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
October 2nd, 2015 at 10:52:19 AM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 |
But that's using the science! And you said that science can't prove God existence, so now I am really confused. Furthermore, arguments on the prime mover and creator don't then led to the existence of a moral God, or require the existence to match that written in the Bible. It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
October 2nd, 2015 at 12:32:37 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
What seems to happen is, once you use circular reason or logic or whatever to find a god, you then blame everything on him for anything you want. He becomes the catch-all scapegoat. God did it, god created it, those are gods rules, you can't think of anything, god did all that for you. Then you put yourself in charge and tell others what to do, and ordain ego centered followers to do the same. In gods name, of course. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 2nd, 2015 at 3:49:47 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Can you lead us through that? Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
October 2nd, 2015 at 4:32:32 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
He has, dozens of times. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
October 2nd, 2015 at 4:35:07 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
I'll bet you $1 you won't get a satisfactory answer. I'll also bet $10 any answer will rely on some form of faith. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
October 2nd, 2015 at 5:25:06 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
I'll take the $1 bet. Do me proud, Padre! Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
October 2nd, 2015 at 5:55:50 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
You do realize you can't make god exist with clever reasoning, right? If that were possible, there would be no atheists. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |