World Youth Day in Poland

July 29th, 2016 at 1:08:05 PM permalink
Nareed
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I have to proclaim the Good News to you. Jesus Christ has conquered sin and death. He is true God and true man, He lives and desires a personal living relationship with you.


Why do you keep feeding the troll?

IMO what I said before applies to you: can't you just enjoy your event without getting into arguments? We can all take up the war back when you're back home.
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July 29th, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
He lives and desires a personal living relationship with you.


No he doesn't, quit saying that and pretending
it's true. The dead stay dead, deep inside you
know that. If you'd just spend 5min a day fighting
the brainwashing of the Church, you might start
getting closer to the truth.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 29th, 2016 at 2:16:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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We can all take up the war back when you're back home.


What's the difference, the internet is
everywhere. I'm interested in why
Poland hates the current pope, and
acts like John Paul is still in charge.
Poland is the most devout in Europe,
40% of Catholics go to mass once a
week, compared to about 15% of the
rest of Europe. 45 years ago, 90% went
to mass, so 40% is kind of pathetic by
those standards.

Poland says Francis is trying to change
most of what John Paul accomplished.
Who knew god was so political.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 30th, 2016 at 2:50:03 AM permalink
FrGamble
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I'm hiking out for the night to celebrate Mass with Pope Francis tomorrow. The Polish people have been wonderful and they love Pope Francis. I am so amazed that if you took your news from Bob you would think that the Church gathering millions of young people would be impossible. However, the Church is the only institution that could ever do something like this! The young Church is vibrant, exciting, and full of hope.
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:35:36 AM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: FrGamble
However, the Church is the only institution that could ever do something like this!


Really? Perhaps you've never heard of the Hajj?

Or world cup soccer?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_peaceful_gatherings_in_history

Christian things aren't even in the top 10.

How could all of those people, representing religions with populations in the minority among several religions, and yet out-attending events of several majority population religions possibly be wrong about their beliefs?
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
July 30th, 2016 at 11:43:27 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
Really? Perhaps you've never heard of the Hajj?
Or world cup soccer?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_peaceful_gatherings_in_history

Christian things aren't even in the top 10.

How could all of those people, representing religions with populations in the minority among several religions, and yet out-attending events of several majority population religions possibly be wrong about their beliefs?


FrG has his head in the sand, he's been
brainwashed through and through.
Whatever they tell him he believes, it's
very sad. They tell him only Catholics
can get together without killing each
other and he throws his hands in the
air and says 'praise god, I know it's true'.

What he needs is a really good deprogrammer.

"Deprogramming refers to coercive measures to force a person in a controversial belief system to change those beliefs and abandon allegiance to the religious or social group associated with the belief system."
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 30th, 2016 at 11:46:28 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
The Polish people have been wonderful and they love Pope Francis.


http://www.politico.eu/article/polands-problem-with-this-pope-francis-krakow-catholic-church/
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 30th, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
What he needs is a really good deprogrammer.

"Deprogramming refers to coercive measures to force a person in a controversial belief system to change those beliefs and abandon allegiance to the religious or social group associated with the belief system."


Pretty sure I remember reading stories of people being rescued from "cults." I put it in quotations because it just as often as not be Christian based rescuers. Which I find ironic.

A cult is the hard liquor of persuasion.
Christianity is mostly the beer of persuasion. (although I have to say, getting young people out to an isolated area campsite for 48 - 72 hours is pretty close to brainwashing tactics. Kumbiya my friend, Kumbiyaaaaaaaa!)

People are fooled into thinking the second isn't as faulty as the first.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
July 30th, 2016 at 2:15:12 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
People are fooled into thinking the second isn't as faulty as the first.


The Catholic Church is very much a cult.
So is Mormonism, which is much harder
to shake than the Church. Mormons
will make life difficult for you. All you have
with Catholics is the massive guilt involved
when you leave. You know, the guilt that
FrG claims doesn't even exist. The guilt
the Church made into an institution. FrG
will never know what's it's like to be guilt
free. It's very sad..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 30th, 2016 at 4:53:36 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: Evenbob
http://www.politico.eu/article/polands-problem-with-this-pope-francis-krakow-catholic-church/


I read the article
Pope Francis is still a Rock Star
He will arrive in Poland and command rock star crowds

Sure many in the Church don't trust him
He's not anti-gay, not anti Muslim and trusts science
The people in Poland that don't trust him are akin the conservatives in the USA that don't like him
People that twist religion into hate, sure those people don't trust the pope
So what if a lot of religious people in the USA don't like the Pope just like Poland, they are in the minority
regardless
He's still the biggest Rock Star on the planet
I'm an atheist
I'm also a huge fan of this Pope.
What a gift to not just influence the religious, but non religious like me
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"