Original Sin?

October 3rd, 2016 at 4:39:43 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
the sickness that we are constantly celebrating in our culture and producing true art .


How is porn not art. Because some people
get addicted to it, you want to get rid of
it completely. That's just nuts. There are
people addicted to eating corn starch,
should we get rid of that too? The truth
is porn shows people involved in a very
human act and the sexually perverted
Church just can't stand that.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 3rd, 2016 at 5:03:52 PM permalink
FrGamble
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You didn't say "reasonable and good people". That would imply an individual, which is A-OK. You said "gov...made promiscuity not something that was promoted". How can .gov "make" someone or something do something? By force. Force which may start with warning but can only end with the barrel of a gun, same as every single other action done by .gov.

I can't think of any other way .gov to do such a thing other than force or censorship, one of which is reprehensible, the other which is against the first. Unless, perhaps, you were talking simple PSA's. And in that case, I believe it should be handled through the private sector, not through the use of my tax dollars.


As someone who is very worried about religious freedom in this country I would agree with you. I think my choice of words was in the context of a discussion about the government forcing religious groups to go against their faith. Ironic that I would be dinged by you for supporting government attacks on the first amendment when the first and foundational freedom given there is the Freedom of Religion. Anyway glad you have no real cause to join Nareed's war against me.
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October 3rd, 2016 at 5:10:48 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
The truth
is porn shows people involved in a very
human act and the sexually perverted
Church just can't stand that.


I should remind you about speaking about the Catholic Church when you have no experience of it.

Secondly, I should tell you that what you say about porn is not true at all. Have you seen that stuff lately (not that I have) but it is all about sons having sex with their mothers, sisters and brothers, teens and adults, group sex, all kinds of unnatural and twisted stuff.
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October 3rd, 2016 at 7:58:45 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I but it is all about sons having sex with their mothers, sisters and brothers, teens and adults, group sex, all kinds of unnatural and twisted stuff.


The sex with relatives is acting, these are
porn actors, remember. Teens have to be
18 and able to prove it or they get shut
down. Group sex is hardly twisted. It's
the same harmless porn that was around
40 years ago, only with better acting
and better looking people. I would say
porn does give men unreal contrast
of what the size of their member should
be. And the women are generally better
looking than what the average man will
ever be with in real life. But it's fantasy,
like every TV show. It's entertainment.

And unfortunately I have lots of experience
with the Catholic Church thanks you and my
ex priest friend.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 3rd, 2016 at 8:14:28 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
The sex with relatives is acting, these are
porn actors, remember.


Oh its just acting...why in the world would anyone act out such sick stuff?!?

Quote:
And unfortunately I have lots of experience
with the Catholic Church thanks you and my
ex priest friend.


So your only experience is in listening to other people talk about it? Does that give you the ability to speak about it?
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October 3rd, 2016 at 9:04:04 PM permalink
Dalex64
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The damaging effects of increased pornogrophy in the United States:

Abortion rate down

Syphilis and gonnorhea down

Teen sex rates down

Divorce rate down

Incidents of rape down

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/200904/does-pornography-cause-social-harm

That is just one article about that - there are more.

Those results are certainly counter to expectations, yes?
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October 3rd, 2016 at 9:48:01 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Do you really think causation is proved here? Do you really think pornography is the cause of the things you mention?

Pornography addiction and the harm it is doing to men, women, families, vulenerable women such as prostitutes, drug addicts, and sex slaves are very real and increasing in epidemic numbers. It is very harmful to society and I'm a little flabbergasted you don't recognize that.
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October 3rd, 2016 at 9:58:47 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Oh its just acting...why in the world would anyone act out such sick stuff?!?


Some people have fantasies, like having sex
with their their step brother, or stepmother.
You know that, right? Some actually do it
in real life. Woody Allen married one of
his wife's adopted kids. But he's Jewish
so it doesn't matter.

I envy you in a way. You think sex is something
it isn't, you have it up on pedestal and you
worship it from afar. If you ever get to experience
married sex, I can only imagine your disappointment
when you wonder what all the fuss was about.

Why do you think prostitution is called the oldest
profession. Most of their clients are unhappy
married men. Unhappy because they're bored
to death with their sex lives.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 3rd, 2016 at 10:13:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Pornography addiction..It is very harmful to society


They can't even agree what constitutes
a porn addict. In my wife's church if
you look at porn at all you're an addict.
Porn has been around forever. After
the invention of the photo, the first
major mass printing of pictures was
of naked women, because the demand
was so high. I once heard a famous doctor
on the radio say if you drank three
beers every weekend watching sports,
you were an alcoholic. Now, if you look
at porn three times a week, you're an
addict. Ridiculous, we live in a society
of little old ladies in charge of our morality.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
October 4th, 2016 at 5:04:54 AM permalink
pew
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Quote: Dalex64
The damaging effects of increased pornogrophy in the United States:

Abortion rate down

Syphilis and gonnorhea down

Teen sex rates down

Divorce rate down

Incidents of rape down

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/200904/does-pornography-cause-social-harm

That is just one article about that - there are more.

Those results are certainly counter to expectations, yes?
Sounds more like the results of gaming to me.